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can old Cragars be rechromed? #2432277
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I can get a set made in 1972. They have some minor rust where the center meets the hoop.
Is it worth it, or are new Cragars identical?

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432291
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You might be better off and cheaper off to have them powder coated in chrome color. I have seen some done and it looks like real chrome!! Wont peel or discolor too! up

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432294
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I doubt you'll find a shop willing to do it. I expect even if you do you'll find it makes the cost of new attractive. It's a shame, IIRC, Cragar didn't move production out of the U.S. until ~ 1975? shruggy Went to Brazil then?

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432296
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Originally Posted By Hemi_Joel
Is it worth it



(Wheel&Tire shop right down the street here can do anything you want to an old set of rims...

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432302
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These would be for the Hemi Blues.

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432319
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Joel, I just bought these brand new from Summit about a year ago. 15 x 4 1/2 with the correct direct bolt pattern. The center caps are definitely not the same at the originals so I changed them out with some nice originals. I have heard that the spokes may be “flatter” on the new Cragars but I cannot verify that.

After taking these photos, I see that I need to take a few minutes and clean the car... It is getting dirty. I have been driving it a lot!

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: HemiStan] #2432364
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Too hard to get the chrome down in the seam is the issue. Likely cheaper to buy new ones as chrome plating prices are steep.

Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432383
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If it was done originally, why can't it be done again?
I have a set of the 15x4-1/2 that wanted to have done also, just haven't got around to checking. Then get a set of 8 or10" reversed to widen to 14" for the back, nostalgic look.
The powder coating red or gold is an idea though. Black car.

Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432396
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You just cut the center from the outer casing.

Then re chrome both

And last weld them back together. There are steel inserts in the aluminum center that you weld to. This is a common deal.


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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432403
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You can't imagine what they would charge you.


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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432477
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If you decide to go new, I believe that Cragar offers their rims in drilled now so that you don't have to go to Uni-Lug. I have never had any problems with Uni-Lug rims. I just don't like the way they look and they are a much bigger pain to install.

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432614
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Check on plating prices first but do it setting down. I got an estimate of $175 for a 64 callout hood ornament. It was in decent shape and didn't need any filling. A friend in Michigan had the five letters (D-O-D-G-E) done for his Charger restoration. He paid $100 each.

Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432776
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My Dad bought a set of brand new Cragars for his car a few years ago. Inside of a year they started rusting and this was on a garage kept fair weather driver. Car maybe saw 1,000 miles that year. I don't know if their QC has gotten any better since then.


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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: autoxcuda] #2432814
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Originally Posted By autoxcuda
You just cut the center from the outer casing.

Then re chrome both

And last weld them back together. There are steel inserts in the aluminum center that you weld to. This is a common deal.


Here's a pic of the Cragar center/rim weld. As stated, simply cut the weld and separate the pieces for plating.

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432864
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The old centers are also steel. I had old cragers and the whole wheel was rusted and peeling. If you buy new ones. They will also be rusted soon
Iv had ralley wheels powder coated. And the problem is. It's hard the get the seam where hoop and center meet not clump up. And when in the oven it will pop. In order to re chrome. The old has to be removed. Lots of money. And few years will look same if not worse then the wheel you have now
....ya couldn't give me a set of "chrome" wheels


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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: toplescuda] #2432882
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I love Cragar wheels. Yes, they rust if you sneeze near them. I have had mine which I bought used at a flea market in the 80's still look good enough for a driver today. I usually rub wax all over them & let the wax sit on them all winter long & then wipe off in the spring but just realized I did not do that this winter, ooops.

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432899
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Cragars where THE wheel back in the day. First thing after buying the car was installing Cragars. Not necessarily in this order but English Leather, Right Guard and Cragars where it.

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: Hemi_Joel] #2432905
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I had my spyder rim centers cut from the outer casing for $20/rim. Then I can detail the centers myslef and have them put new chrome outers on at my preferred backspacing.

It's about $85-100 total with new chrome off the shelf production outers per rim. If I had the centers chrome, that would be a separate extra cost that I would have to handle myself.

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Re: can old Cragars be rechromed? [Re: cudaman1969] #2432915
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Originally Posted By cudaman1969
Cragrars (sic) where THE wheel back in the day.


They still are to a lot of us dinosaurs. thumbs


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