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FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition #239991
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I have a MP electronic ignition kit (P3690426) and i would like to know if it’s possible to use the MP distributor with the A688 fbo kit (ECU, coil and ballast resistor).


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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Chal340] #239992
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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Chal340] #239993
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sure, It should work fine .. FBO recurved my MP dist and I used with his stuff, but i didnt have good luck with his box (failed) and the coil leaks.. if you have it use it, if your buyin it go MSD..

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Chal340] #239994
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Use the mp distributor & FBO coil/control box-but be sure the distributor is checked for proper phasing of the rotor to the cap and corrected if necessary.

There were some quality control issues within the manufacturing of some FBO control boxes which cause them to fail. That is something that occurred in the past and has not been of recent memory.

The FBO products work as advertised unlike some expensive stuff hawked here on moparts and elsewhere. Don't let the poorly informed influence your decision.


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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Chal340] #239995
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I ran the A688 FBO ignition kit with a MP distributor. It ran well at first, then it failed. I bought it 3 or 4 years ago if time frame has anything to do with it.
Next ignition I buy is going to be a Mallory Hy-Fire6, it has more features for less money than the MSD equivalent.

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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: B5 Bee] #239996
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I ran the A688 FBO ignition kit with a MP distributor. It ran well at first, then it failed. I bought it 3 or 4 years ago if time frame has anything to do with it.
Next ignition I buy is going to be a Mallory Hy-Fire6, it has more features for less money than the MSD equivalent.



for the money spent I wish i went with msd the first time.. My whole set up from FBO was wrong.. now its costing me double to fix it again..

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Dakota_Don] #239997
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I run the FBO box, coil, and a recurved distributor. This summer was the 5th year running everything. I had a box and pickup go bad this year. I put a new FBO box and FBO distributor in it again. Also bought an extra, just to have, for spares.


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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Dartsport540] #239998
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i know a couple personal friends that used the fbo set ups and both went through multiple control boxes. they did get the replacements for free though so that is good. do yourself a favor and buy two ballis resistors and control boxes so your not stranded somewhere. the MP dist is easy to recurve so do that yourself.

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: cogen80] #239999
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Seems like a lot of guys with multiple fbo problems still buy from them, Why? is the spark from their box, coil and ballast stronger than my chrome box, msd blaster II, & msd .8 ohm balast resistor?

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: ademon] #240000
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good question. i have asked basically the same thing and no one can say.. seems to be a fad around here or something.

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Chal340] #240001
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Man , I got the wole kit for my convert! Really apalling quality in the distributor....

Junk bent housing blasted to pee so the cap wouldn't fit. The star wheel wasn't pinned correctly and the star wheel was floating on the shaft. I was really surprised. They must have blind people picking the housings and assembling by my experience. I swapped to an accel cap, pinned the wheel correctly and the thing actually worked as ordered.

I'd buy MSD next time for sure!


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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: 440PURSUIT] #240002
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was that the FBO kit or the MP kit?

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: ademon] #240003
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Seems like a lot of guys with multiple fbo problems still buy from them, Why? is the spark from their box, coil and ballast stronger than my chrome box, msd blaster II, & msd .8 ohm balast resistor?




I'm surprised that there seems to be "multiple problems". I sold FBO for 4 years, and never warranteed a ecu.

The only issues I ever had, was the early FBO kits came with a poor ballast resistor.

As for why it's better than the blaster II with a chrome box, is the blaster II is intended for use with a capacitive discharge set up (like MSD).

Without that, it's output is nothing special. The FBO coil is setup for use with conventional spark system, so it's spark output is better.

The chrome box and the FBO box have very similiar specs when compared head to head.

Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: Chal340] #240004
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Quand j'ai tire mon roleau de FBO,l'ecu &(le depute) lestent le rouleau a commence a divulguer de l'huile de la tour immediatement donc je l'ai ferme.J'ai parle avec Don & il adit que j'avais besoin de serrer en bas la vis dans le haut auquel je l'ai informe que je ne savais pas que e'etait maresponsibilite des'arreter la fuite dans un(marquezle noveau rouleau) & quand je l'ai assure que le lest de depute que j'ai utilise etait plus d'ohms que son il m'a envoye un noveau roleau noir et un ecu gratuitement. je ne les ai pas utilises encore mais va dans plusieurs mois, je me souviens quand FBO a repris connaisance & a gagne un culte immediate suite a si beaucoup d'utilisateurs avait des rapports rougeoyants de comment don systieme a joue. J'ai entendu la voie plus bonne que mauvais & je verrai bientot pourmoi(la 2eme fois autorde de) le fait qu'il l'a rendu le droit(en includant l"expedition a fait un croyant de moi. Je me souviens vrainment il y a beaucoup d'annee de quelau'un critisized un des ses produits ou quelque chose & il a bascule avec la tirade la plus plus furieuse dont j'etais te moin jamais sur intermet. Je veux que se L'aire sauve comme c'etait vrainment une oeuvre d'art.


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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: RapidRobert] #240005
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You translated with google traduction? it's not very clear but i understood.;)
thank you everyone for your answers.


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You translated with google


yes but the problem I had was that our keyboards dont make the notations above(some of) the letters that I saw on the google translation plus I'm sure I made a few typing errors. As good as your English is I should have left it in English.


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Re: FBO ignition and MP electronic ignition [Re: dave571] #240007
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Seems like a lot of guys with multiple fbo problems still buy from them, Why? is the spark from their box, coil and ballast stronger than my chrome box, msd blaster II, & msd .8 ohm balast resistor?




I'm surprised that there seems to be "multiple problems". I sold FBO for 4 years, and never warranteed a ecu.

The only issues I ever had, was the early FBO kits came with a poor ballast resistor.






Dave,
My FBO gave me problems after I had it 1 year.
It was already out of warranty by the time I got everything else on the car finished, so I didn't bother calling Don. The first problem was after about 200 miles.
I think I had a bad FBO coil. It first went thru 2 ballasts, then the FBO ECU went, replaced with a MP chrome ECU, then another ballast, then the MP chrome ECU. Only thing left was the FBO coil. I replaced it with the cheap Accel coil I had laying around along with another MP chrome ECU, 3 years and 5,000 miles later it is still going.

Next time for me will be a Mallory HyFire 6, I think MSD products are overpriced.

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Im going on my 3rd year with my FBO stuff (ign kit & dizzy) with no troubles yet


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I also went thru a FBO ECU. It was replaced with less hassle than anything I've ever tried to return. This time I used a ground strap with it. Over the years, I've had a few ECU's die on me and they were all from Mopar On different cars). I think dying ECU's are something we are just forced to live with.

In FBO's defense, once I installed his system, my car started a lot easier. The distributor he curved really made a difference...to the good.That goes for the freezing winters here in Idaho. It replaced a Mopar Performance system.

Any more problems and I might just go to a dual point distributor. I kind of miss yanking out the distributor to install/adjust points. Also, I think my dwell meter is lonely.


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Any more problems and I might just go to a dual point distributor. I kind of miss yanking out the distributor to install/adjust points. Also, I think my dwell meter is lonely.


Mines collecting dust also ex for setting the idle speed as I dont have a tach in my daily driver


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