Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/08/17 12:06 PM
08/08/17 12:06 PM
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therocks
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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You must have a problem.My mini for a 360 Ram reman has been on my 12.5 440 for at least 17 years.Still starts like a /6.There is a difference in the minis.The 360 one is rated higher.If you are burning them up you have to be seeing excessive amps.Mine is even captured by the headers.never a problem.Rocky
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/08/17 12:10 PM
08/08/17 12:10 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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Whats your set up.. do you run a separate switch for the ignition (1 for cranking then hit the ignition)... whats the cranking pressure.. I assume it starts cold but a hard time when hot
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/08/17 12:11 PM
08/08/17 12:11 PM
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pittsburghracer
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Kinda funny how some guys have issues with this and some don't. My last starter cost my 69.00 ordered from Advance Auto for a 1995 small block Dodge truck, and is going on its 4th year. I spend a fair amount of time shinning mine and getting it right because I have different set-ups on my cars. Some have powerglide adapter plates and some have UltraBells so it really makes you pay attention and just not throw it on like some guys do. Good grounding is another issue for some.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/08/17 01:28 PM
08/08/17 01:28 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Well I have run stock mini starters on my junk with no issues. My last one accidently got knocked off my tool box and cracked. I happened to have a powermaster I had picked up in some deal and threw it in there and never a problem with it either.
I too believe ALOT Of starter issues come from poor grounds on the car. Just went through this on my Status. We had some issues cranking the engine and come to find out one of the crimps was loose on the battery ground. Fixed that a viola problem solved.
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/08/17 01:36 PM
08/08/17 01:36 PM
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Thanks what kind of compression on your engine My current build is app 12.5 but running alcohol I don't spend a lot of time getting real accurate numbers. I ran the same exact starters in my 572 and 500 big blocks that ran in the 8's on race gas with higher compression. My big point was pay attention to details. Some of these starters need attention out of the box. A quick clean-up of the mounting surface with a flat file goes a long way in not only cleaning it but squaring it up. Not as much over the last two years but I run the crap out of my stuff and it doesn't sit around much. Good grounding, GOOD power connections go a long way. Our stock starters are miles above the old Chevy stuff if we set them up right. Aluminum is not a good ground and is a big reason mobile homes used to burn to the ground so often. Anything to save a buck was their moto.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/09/17 04:39 PM
08/09/17 04:39 PM
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therocks
oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Not just poor grounds but bad cables.That and cables that are too small.I run 1 gauge on my 440.When I ran the stock Mopars ones always had a problem slow cranking.That and just because cables look good on the outside they corrode inside.Cant say how many I saw at the shop in 30 years.Weak batterys will also kill a starter.Rocky
Chrysler Firepower
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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08/11/17 02:04 AM
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dodgeram1998
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finally got out to garage, to inspect starter, the nose is installed in its registry hole, not good but .040 clearance from starter gear to ring gear, shimmed out starter to .125 clearance and while under car with some cranking the starter,, the starter gear a couple time didn't meshed with ring gear , plus the starter gear wouldn't retract, some kind of alignment problem , I believe I have to cut out the midplate in the starter mounting area to square up starter and get my proper alignment . well see tomorrow I have a ultra bell housing and mid plate
Last edited by dodgeram1998; 08/11/17 02:14 AM. Reason: added info
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Re: engine starter shopping
[Re: dodgeram1998]
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08/11/17 06:28 PM
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Here's that starter shim pack from JW transmissions if you guys are ever looking. 5 nice heavy duty shins and the nose piece some guys need
Last edited by pittsburghracer; 08/11/17 06:30 PM.
1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27
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