Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
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02/19/09 02:38 AM
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i changed out the eddy springs for the hughes 1111 and used the eddy retainers.
or if you need new retainers ...you can just use the one hughes refer to at their website.
Tony
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
[Re: 340SIX]
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02/19/09 03:00 AM
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the retainers need to match the stem size of the valves which are 11/32 on the eddies..
i reused the retainers and the locks on the eddies..
if you buy new ones...the retainers are hughes pn 1203 or 1202 and locks are 1322..
Tony
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
[Re: The Shadow]
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02/19/09 12:11 PM
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a dip in miuratic acid would do the trick.
Last edited by theclutcher; 02/19/09 12:11 PM.
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
[Re: The Shadow]
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02/19/09 01:12 PM
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I would take them apart. Wire wheel the pieces and put them back together. It's just a little rust.
X2 Maybe hand lap the valves and run it.
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
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02/19/09 03:05 PM
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I've never seen any Hughes springs come in here that had'nt lost alot of pressure, in fact I just had to replace all 16 valves in a set of E heads that were in such bad float from the Hughes 1111 springs dying. Also they make you run some goofy shim for the inner spring if you are not running on a stock style J/X head that has a spring step on it, those shims were wearing & pumping metal out. I'll leave it at that since I don't want to start a pissing match. The 987 Comp's are a little light on the seat for my liking. I'd probably put a set of 978-16 Comp's in it installed at 1.80", ~145 on seat, ~360 open.....use a Comp 741-16 moly 10 degree retainer, & a set of 611-16 Comp locks. Fresh valve job, & install new spring shims or do it right & machine the spring pockets & add a seat locator/cup. I'd use a 4704-16 Comp OD cup if it was me.... When they do the VJ, have the seats intentionally sunk .030" for flow & will help give more room for the thicker .060" locator. Factory E heads come with single springs with a damper around 110 on seat 280 open, 7 degree retainers & stamped steel 7 degree locks, no cup/loctaor, just some unhardened spring shims under them. Usually a .030" & a .015" depending on how head was machined.
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
[Re: RyanJ]
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02/19/09 04:24 PM
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What brand is the cam, ie I need to know how fast the ramp profile is, if it is a Hughes or something with a .904" Chrysler fast lobe on it I would not run the stock E head springs on it, they're just not up to the task pressure wise. Just because a spring can "handle" .580" lift does not mean it has enough pressure to deal with fast ramp speed or heavy valvetrain.
Engle Soild KV2-3 it is a combo of both the KV2 and KV3 Lift 560/575 lash .018/0.20 Duration at 0.050 244/252 lobe centers 110 card says overlap TDC Intake Opens 11 Exhaust Closes 16 BDC Intake Closes 53 Exhaust Opens 56 Running Duration 275/284
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
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02/19/09 05:44 PM
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Stop being CHEAP!! Just send them out and stimulate the economy...
Me Cheap? Hey I gave my son 10 bucks to clean up the worse looking one! It is nice as before I have been teaching him how to sand/polish stuff. But he says ther is no real money in it for the time it takes to do it! Plus no normal person wants that done
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Re: Pics of flooded heads what would you do?
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02/20/09 12:14 AM
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I called engle and eddlebrock both said the stock stuff would be ok! I wanted to check incase I was told wrong when this was done the first time! They both said it would be fine with the same thing I had before. But was also almost at limit but the factory stuff supplied would be fine. Someone like Ryan who see them when the new wears off so to say, would Know if they will hold up to the test of time. As he stated about the 1111 huges ones don't.I wonder how the stock ones supplied with the heads hold up? I was planing on changing the whole mess{springs,locks and retainers. Under the springs looks to be a brass or copper colored washers not cuped shape that is not rust and looks nothing like the ones listed here Spring Cups One head looks to have no damage at all.
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