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My new street/strip 74 dart sport #2269704
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Hi every one. I haven't made a race car post on her in a few years. Had to get out of the game for a few years.but I am back.lol well I am buying a tubed out 1974 dart sport, used to be a old race car. But I am going to be making a street/strip car out of it. But have a few questions. The car has a mustang II front end. I know it's kind of old school, but what do you think about the set up? Is anybody still using it?
I will be installing the engine/trans out of a 2000 dodge Durango with the 5.9. I will also be installing the factory fuel injection.
Second question.
I am going to have to weld in a set of motor mounts or run a motor plate. I would just run a engine plate, sounds like it would be lots easier. But I wanted to run the factory magnum belt set up and it looks like I will loose it if I run the engine plate. Does anybody make a weld on motor mount kit or is it fab time. Here is a pic of the car. Thanks mopar6r

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3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops
Re: My new street/strip 74 dart sport [Re: mopar65] #2269769
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Looks decent.. I have a mustang II front end
on my 38 Ply.. works fine.. mine even has
power steering
wave

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Thanks Mike. If I have any trouble with it can I ask you questions about it? Also I might have some trans questions for ya. Did you ever race your rampage down the 1/4 mile? If so what did it run?


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Re: My new street/strip 74 dart sport [Re: mopar65] #2269941
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Welcome back and cool project car.............. beer


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Re: My new street/strip 74 dart sport [Re: mopar65] #2269948
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Originally Posted By mopar65
Thanks Mike. If I have any trouble with it can I ask you questions about it? Also I might have some trans questions for ya. Did you ever race your rampage down the 1/4 mile? If so what did it run?


Sure you can.. I havent raced it on the true
1/4 mile.. just on the road in front of my
place(I have a 1/4 mile marked out on the
road)I used my G-force meter to give me a
rough idea
wave

Re: My new street/strip 74 dart sport [Re: mopar65] #2269950
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Looks good Bobby!


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Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Welcome back and cool project car.............. beer


Ditto!

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Looks like fun. Enjoy the road back


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Re: My new street/strip 74 dart sport [Re: Thumperdart] #2270321
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[quote=Thumperdart]Welcome back and cool project car.............. beer [/quote
Thanks Dom. It's great to be back. It going to take me a long time to get my car the way I want it. So for now it's going to be more of a slow street car.lol


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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By mopar65
Thanks Mike. If I have any trouble with it can I ask you questions about it? Also I might have some trans questions for ya. Did you ever race your rampage down the 1/4 mile? If so what did it run?


Sure you can.. I havent raced it on the true
1/4 mile.. just on the road in front of my
place(I have a 1/4 mile marked out on the
road)I used my G-force meter to give me a
rough idea
wave


Thanks Mike. I have never messed with the mustang II stuff. So will be looking for advice etc on it. I want to use the 46RE over drive trans with lock up converter. Just haven't found out if you can get one with higher than stock stall yet.


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Originally Posted By ProSport
Looks good Bobby!


Thanks Bob. I think your duster looks amazing and would love to have one just like it. Have you made a pass down the track yet?


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Re: My new street/strip 74 dart sport [Re: cudadoug] #2270334
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Originally Posted By cudadoug
Originally Posted By Thumperdart
Welcome back and cool project car.............. beer


Ditto!

Thanks you


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Originally Posted By pittsburghracer
Looks like fun. Enjoy the road back


Thanks. I think a lot of fun will be getting the engine in etc and getting the car runing.


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Originally Posted By mopar65
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Originally Posted By mopar65
Thanks Mike. If I have any trouble with it can I ask you questions about it? Also I might have some trans questions for ya. Did you ever race your rampage down the 1/4 mile? If so what did it run?


Sure you can.. I havent raced it on the true
1/4 mile.. just on the road in front of my
place(I have a 1/4 mile marked out on the
road)I used my G-force meter to give me a
rough idea
wave


Thanks Mike. I have never messed with the mustang II stuff. So will be looking for advice etc on it. I want to use the 46RE over drive trans with lock up converter. Just haven't found out if you can get one with higher than stock stall yet.


What I did was change input shaft and pump
assembly so I could put a high stall conc
in.. I'm running a 4.10 gear with with the
OD trans.. I shut the OD off when racing.. that
way I get the max rpm for racing... thats with
a 4800 rpm stall... with the OD on I can cruise
at 2900 rpm at 75 mph
wave

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Looks like a cool project. Mustang II front ends are pretty solid pieces. I don't think fabbing up some motor mounts would be that big a deal.


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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Originally Posted By mopar65
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Originally Posted By mopar65
Thanks Mike. If I have any trouble with it can I ask you questions about it? Also I might have some trans questions for ya. Did you ever race your rampage down the 1/4 mile? If so what did it run?


Sure you can.. I havent raced it on the true
1/4 mile.. just on the road in front of my
place(I have a 1/4 mile marked out on the
road)I used my G-force meter to give me a
rough idea
wave


Thanks Mike. I have never messed with the mustang II stuff. So will be looking for advice etc on it. I want to use the 46RE over drive trans with lock up converter. Just haven't found out if you can get one with higher than stock stall yet.


What I did was change input shaft and pump
assembly so I could put a high stall conc
in.. I'm running a 4.10 gear with with the
OD trans.. I shut the OD off when racing.. that
way I get the max rpm for racing... thats with
a 4800 rpm stall... with the OD on I can cruise
at 2900 rpm at 75 mph
wave


Sounds great Mike. So did you just use a pump and input shaft out of a 727? Also I think I have enough alto red racing clutches left over from my 727 build. Can I use them in the 46RE? I just have to buy the steels.


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Originally Posted By sgcuda
Looks like a cool project. Mustang II front ends are pretty solid pieces. I don't think fabbing up some motor mounts would be that big a deal.

Have any recommendations on mounts ? I have a V8 spool mount k frame I was thinking about cutting the mounts off of. The k frame it self is junk. But the engine mounts are still good.


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Yeah... I just changed the input shaft and
the pump to fit a 727 conv.. as to the frictions
and steels.. I cant say for sure.. 727 parts are
a little smaller than the parts in my 518... it
will be easy enough to find out
wave

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Originally Posted By MR_P_BODY
Yeah... I just changed the input shaft and
the pump to fit a 727 conv.. as to the frictions
and steels.. I cant say for sure.. 727 parts are
a little smaller than the parts in my 518... it
will be easy enough to find out
wave

Mike is there a certain pump and input shaft I should look for? I think I have a left over pump and input shaft from a 71/74 727 I could use.what did you use for a valve body?


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Just a 727 and input shaft
I used the stock 518 valve body
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