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Project big block a body headers. #2250098
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Well after getting my engine rebuilt last year and changed everything from the transmission tunnel forward including a Bob's profab tube front end I ran my original 1 7/8" hooker fender wells which obviously left room for improvement, bought a set of Mazzolini/Tti Proparts 2 1/8 stepped headers and ended up going 2 tenths quicker with only a header change and bumping the timing from 36 to 38. Only problem was I hate in chassis headers so my quest to get some fender well headers made that would breathe and somewhat easy to work on. Some of the members here recommended RMS in Arizona which I was seriously concidering but a friend told me of a local guy. Went to check out his work and ended up having him make me a set. I cut my firewall to sink them back and as soon as I get them boxed in I'll shoot some pix of it finished but here are a couple of them after coating.
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Re: Project big block a body headers. [Re: mikeysmopars] #2250111
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Very very nice, how long are they ?


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To the collector they are about 63"
He used 572 flanges and made them from 16 guage pipe. 2 1/8 to 2 1/4 to 4" collectors. They are heavy but I can work on every aspect of the car without removing them.


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Re: Project big block a body headers. [Re: mikeysmopars] #2250121
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Pretty sweet welds.

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Re: Project big block a body headers. [Re: mikeysmopars] #2250210
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Looks good! My next project will have those V-band clamps, not sure what I'm doing wrong with my Walker band clamps but they keep crimping my pipes even when I oil them.


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Have you tried to put them in the car yet?Did you think about putting a slip tube fit splitting the length?


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Originally Posted By ProSport
Looks good! My next project will have those V-band clamps, not sure what I'm doing wrong with my Walker band clamps but they keep crimping my pipes even when I oil them.

do you have a pic on how the crimp looks ?
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No I do not. I'll take a pic next time, seems to do it on the butt joint and lap joint band clamps.


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Originally Posted By Clanton
Have you tried to put them in the car yet?Did you think about putting a slip tube fit splitting the length?

They were built on the car and I didn't want slip tubes. as big as these are they come out one piece. I had to cut into the firewall to have them go back far enough for a 26" tall front runner and I'm boxing them in as we speak. I'll send more pix after they are done.

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That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.


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Originally Posted By mikeysmopars
Pretty sweet welds.
Mike those are crazy long..👓


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Side when I picked it up.

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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.


Yep I agree... those are WAY to long to match
the engine
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I'd love to have a set made like the stahl or proparts but better suited to fit my car. Having to modify my headers now so that I can get to the shock adjustment knob.


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Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.



iagree As soon as I saw 63", your old dyno tests with the longer headers came into my mind. Said , oh no, maybe not so good.

Edit; ok, I see they are 2"1/8 to 2"1/4 pretty quick. That might be just fine. 2"1/4 is pretty huge, it may want that 63" This would make a dyno test pretty interesting as stated.

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Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.



iagree As soon as I saw 63", your old dyno tests with the longer headers came into my mind. Said , oh no, not so good.


Going to run in two weeks so I have no choice but to run them and if it hurts my ET my plan is too have him shorten them like the headman hustler style headers which would take about 12 to 14 inches out of them but put the collector right in the firewall. If it actually gains from my last outing im gonna leave them alone.


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You made what you wanted,looks good.My collector slips on at the frame level so a good 20 shorter than yours.You could always cut your down.


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Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.



iagree As soon as I saw 63", your old dyno tests with the longer headers came into my mind. Said , oh no, maybe not so good.

Edit; ok, I see they are 2"1/8 to 2"1/4 pretty quick. That might be just fine. 2"1/4 is pretty huge, it may want that 63" This would make a dyno test pretty interesting as stated.


No way... they are way too long... have you EVER seen
a 63" long primary tube header.. then add the collector..
that guy made them fit to what the guy wanted.. way out
of spec for the engine
EDIT
How long is the collector
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Originally Posted By mikeysmopars
Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.



iagree As soon as I saw 63", your old dyno tests with the longer headers came into my mind. Said , oh no, not so good.


Going to run in two weeks so I have no choice but to run them and if it hurts my ET my plan is too have him shorten them like the headman hustler style headers which would take about 12 to 14 inches out of them but put the collector right in the firewall. If it actually gains from my last outing im gonna leave them alone.
run it have some fun..it is to bad you were not going back to the dyno


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Originally Posted By mikeysmopars
Originally Posted By Sport440
Originally Posted By fast68plymouth
That would make for an interesting dyno test.

As i recall......On a mid-600hp 493, 2" Hooker fenderwells were down about 35hp to my dyno headers.
63" is going to tune to a pretty low rpm.



iagree As soon as I saw 63", your old dyno tests with the longer headers came into my mind. Said , oh no, not so good.


Going to run in two weeks so I have no choice but to run them and if it hurts my ET my plan is too have him shorten them like the headman hustler style headers which would take about 12 to 14 inches out of them but put the collector right in the firewall. If it actually gains from my last outing im gonna leave them alone.




Read my post again, edited it 5 minutes before this post of yours. up

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