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Mechanical throttle stops #2241027
01/25/17 02:40 PM
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Anyone use the moroso 65042 positive throttle stop? Any others or can anybody show me how they made their own? Thanks!

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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241048
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Good question! We have been talking about an ET Genie to slow the car down for my grandson.


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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: tboomer] #2241054
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ET Genie is a little more than I wanted to spend. Like $400 more. A guy I race with has different restrictor plates he changes for the weather conditions

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241060
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Had the Moroso, modified it a bit, took 1/2 of the throttle away as well as lowered shift points to make a 12.0 index out of a 11.6 car...


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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241063
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Im not comfortable with a rookie in a 10 second car. He needs seat time.


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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241073
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Starting using one last year.
I was able to slow from 11.20s to 11.50s


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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: OUTLAWD] #2241074
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Thanks for the input. Trying to slow 11.2 car to 11.50 index. Lowered shift points to the level that I shifted from 1st to 2nd and then to third immediately. Did not think it was a good thing for the converter.

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: Roughbird72] #2241076
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bubby440, did you use the moroso one or something else?

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241111
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Ted FWIW that's probably the best way. Threw my kid in the dragster with it wowed up a bit but that was still 9.0's. Even with a stock stroke 440 it wasn't easy


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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241115
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This is what I made for my 1050 dom...it slips
into the hole at the center and rotates down
over the rear stud to mount the carb.. worked
very good for me
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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241133
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Lots of ways to slow a car .3

1. Disconnect secondaries
2. Launch in 2nd gear
3. Mechanical stop
4. Pedal it (my preference)

Problem with 1 and 3 was trying to run S/P and S/ST on same day.

Ted, you are talking 1-1/2 seconds, you are going to need something more robust, like a 300-cfm 2bbl on an adapter.

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: cgall] #2241148
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I have been using a modified version of the Moroso stop for almost 10 years now and have been pretty successful with it. However I changed my throttle cable bracket to a Jegs one so I could use two bolts to mount the stop otherwise it tends to move when only attached to the carb stud.

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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 11secdart] #2241209
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Bill, I need to take a better look at yours in person this year

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2241213
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MRpBody, how much to make me one that looks nice

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241224
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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241295
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The ET Genie is awesome! I use it with CrewChief software and as long as my 60ft prediction is correct, the Genie will put me right on the number every time. On my car I have learned for example that .01 open or closed will add/subtract that time directly to the ET. I also like the fact the with the Genie I am always going "full throttle" so the car is so much more consistent than the throttle arm restricters I used before.

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241657
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Originally Posted By 68DART360
MRpBody, how much to make me one that looks nice


Are you using a 4500 type carb... if you are
I'll give it to ya for shipping cost.. I will
have to make up something for my new set up..
and I dont know if this would work on a 4150
style carb
EDIT
Where I have it set now and a rpm change on
the launch and shift points I went from 9.0
to 10.0 .. I made 8 passes that day and never
varied more than .006 on the day
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Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: MR_P_BODY] #2241766
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I'm using a 4150 950 HP carb

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2241860
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We used the Moroso 65042 stop to slow the Duster from 10.7's to 11.5's (no cage at the time). We had to put an extension on the stop to slow it down enough. It worked great aside from breaking the throttle cable in round one of the first elimination round because the stop stopped the gas pedal from making it all the way to the floor and broke the pedal end of the cable off. We fixed the issue by also putting a stop under the gas pedal. the car was very consistent and we went many bracket rounds with it that way. Now have a cage but still use the stop on occasion for index classes.

Re: Mechanical throttle stops [Re: 68DART360] #2242167
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To me if you have a cable throttle cable you will need a stop for your gas pedal as it is only a matter of time before the cable breaks. If your throttle is a rod than you will be okay. I have a factory throttle cable on my car and had to add small piece of flat metal between the end of the cable and the carb for it to reach. I made the flat piece about 2 inches longer than needed and drilled extra holes in it so I can shorten the cable thus preventing full throttle to help slow the car down. I haven't gotten to use it yet, and it won't be as precise to dial in for an ET like the bolt and nut, but will help slow the car down a X given amount.

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