Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: dubs chops]
#2192229
11/08/16 03:51 PM
11/08/16 03:51 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302 Nebraska
72Swinger
master
|
master
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
|
Would need VVT locked out,then carb away. If it's an auto version, it will need half the lifters swapped to non mds versions to iirc.
Mopar to the bone!!!
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: dubs chops]
#2192572
11/09/16 01:08 AM
11/09/16 01:08 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 112 Michigan
ghinmi
member
|
member
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 112
Michigan
|
You're going to spend more time goofing around trying to run it with a carb than you would getting the efi working. Just do the efi the first time since you already said that's the direction you'll eventually head.
1975 Jeep Cherokee compound turbo 5.7 Hemi/6 speed AutoX/Drag/Street. 9.97 @ 140 slicks, 10.74 in autox trim
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: MattW]
#2194085
11/10/16 05:27 PM
11/10/16 05:27 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 13 Tulsa
dubs chops
OP
member
|
OP
member
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 13
Tulsa
|
For probably less than 1700.00 you can get the new stand alone from Fiat. Comes with all sensors. There's a thread on here describing it. Simplest and cheapest way IMO. One thing is the donor engine needs to be 2014 or newer. I think they changed the toner AKA reluctor wheel. Matt can you tell me more about this?
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: dubs chops]
#2194095
11/10/16 05:38 PM
11/10/16 05:38 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302 Nebraska
72Swinger
master
|
master
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
|
If you're going to leave it stock, I would use the new Mopar standalone.
Mopar to the bone!!!
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: dubs chops]
#2194143
11/10/16 06:46 PM
11/10/16 06:46 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302 Nebraska
72Swinger
master
|
master
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
|
Look for spring for a release, but coming from Mopar it might be spring of 2019. I have the EFISource on my 6.1. Its great, call Mike right now since hes an hour later in PA.
Mopar to the bone!!!
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: 72Swinger]
#2202495
11/25/16 06:46 PM
11/25/16 06:46 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889 up yours
Supercuda
About to go away
|
About to go away
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
|
If you're going to leave it stock, I would use the new Mopar standalone. Why? What does it do for more than this? http://www.efisource.com/shop/ms3-gen3-hemi-plug-play-gold-box/Nothing, in fact it costs more to do it because you cannot tune it without additional, extra costs. Unless you need a smog legal setup then the MP kit is an expensive choice.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: Supercuda]
#2202630
11/25/16 10:41 PM
11/25/16 10:41 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302 Nebraska
72Swinger
master
|
master
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
|
If you're going to leave it stock, I would use the new Mopar standalone. Why? What does it do for more than this? http://www.efisource.com/shop/ms3-gen3-hemi-plug-play-gold-box/Nothing, in fact it costs more to do it because you cannot tune it without additional, extra costs. Unless you need a smog legal setup then the MP kit is an expensive choice. Because it uses the factory knock control,DBW throttle body and would need 0 tuning since it's already for a stock 6.4. By using the the stock TB that saves $300+ alone.
Mopar to the bone!!!
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: dubs chops]
#2202829
11/26/16 01:47 PM
11/26/16 01:47 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889 up yours
Supercuda
About to go away
|
About to go away
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,889
up yours
|
Did you go an actually look at the information on the MS3?
Because most of your objections appear to be unfounded.
It comes with a base tune that is also self tuning.
It is plug and play and they have a 6.4 version.
It works with VVT and active intake.
It works with the knock sensors.
And there is no need to either pay for a tuner or someone to tune it either, Tuner Studio is free.
As for the DBW throttle body, I dunno it doesn't say.
So add in the price of a new TB, which woulds be easier to retrofit, imo, than the drive by wire setup, the pricing is similar with a lot more accessible ability in the MS3 included for the price.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
|
|
|
Re: is it worth it to carb a 6.4
[Re: dubs chops]
#2202864
11/26/16 03:36 PM
11/26/16 03:36 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302 Nebraska
72Swinger
master
|
master
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 4,302
Nebraska
|
I have an MS3 and it still doesnt have knock control ability. I know from experience that new Mopar deal on a STOCK 6.4 would be the bomb.
Mopar to the bone!!!
|
|
|
|
|