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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: terzmo]
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09/05/16 02:39 PM
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Some claim tapered are the only way to go....I've used the green bearings for years...beat the cars up...never had a problem....with the rearend Agreed, same here, decades of use and abuse running Green Bearings, zero issues or failures on any of my vehicles or customers, most people are just "lipping" hersay/myths they have heard, from my experience with others that may have had issues or failures, it seems to stem from installation errors on their behalf
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: Stanton]
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09/05/16 03:08 PM
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On a Roundy round car, green bearings wont finish one race, that should tell you something .
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: Stanton]
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09/05/16 03:35 PM
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Supercuda
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We're not driving roundy round cars
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/05/16 03:55 PM
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We're not driving roundy round cars LMAO
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/05/16 04:07 PM
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We're not driving roundy round cars Maybe not roundy round cars but crisp mountain canyon driving. Train cars use tapers for high flange loads, no green bearings. Craig
2014 Ram 1500 Laramie, 73 Cuda
Previous mopars: 62 Valiant, 65 Fury III, 68 Fury III, 72 Satellite, 74 Satellite, 89 Acclaim, 98 Caravan, 2003 Durango
Only previous Non-Mopar: Schwinn Tornado
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/05/16 05:00 PM
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On a Roundy round car, green bearings wont finish one race, that should tell you something . I've been slinging cars around tracks for decades on Green Bearings, "roundy round/stock car", road course, 1/4 mile, parking lot gymkhana, street racing, etc, etc...never an issue on Greens, although I have toasted a few factory tapered bearings
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/05/16 05:12 PM
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On a Roundy round car, green bearings wont finish one race, that should tell you something . I've been slinging cars around tracks for decades on Green Bearings, "roundy round/stock car", road course, 1/4 mile, parking lot gymkhana, street racing, etc, etc...never an issue on Greens, although I have toasted a few factory tapered bearings you must not go very fast or hard into a corner 
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1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/06/16 12:41 AM
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For those that do not know that the Green type axle bearings, all of them, are ball bearings, nothing more, nothing less  They work, but there not the best for long hard aggressive street or track racing  Think about the contact surfaces on a ball bearing and race and then the same on a tapered Timken roller bearing, how many ball bearings, the O.D. of the balls in each green bearing and how many tapered roller bearings and how much supporting surface contact there is on them  
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/06/16 10:12 AM
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For those that do not know that the Green type axle bearings, all of them, are ball bearings, nothing more, nothing less They work, but there not the best for long hard aggressive street or track racing Think about the contact surfaces on a ball bearing and race and then the same on a tapered Timken roller bearing, how many ball bearings, the O.D. of the balls in each green bearing and how many tapered roller bearings and how much supporting surface contact there is on them More specific, I believe the Green bearings are double row ball bearings. Years ago I looked up the design specifications for both the stock and the greens. IIRC, the tapered roller bearings had something like 4x the side load capacity of the green bearings. But, the green bearing side loading was pretty high. Again, something like a 4g skid pad type of turn would have to be needed to get to the design load of the green bearing. I know my Road Runner isn't capable of 4g turns on a skid pad. But constant side loading could shorten the life of the bearing. This is going back a ways when I looked this up, maybe like 20 years ago.
68 Road Runner (383/4speed, post car w/decor pkg) - Major Project
69 Road Runner w/472 Hemi & 4 speed.
70 Challenger R/T SE EF8 w/ V9J, U - A32 - Major Project
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: Stanton]
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09/06/16 12:26 PM
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NO REASON to ever buy a poor designed green bearing. Some rear disc brake kits aren't compatible with the stock bearings. Sometimes you HAVE to use green bearings.
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: Stanton]
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09/06/16 12:29 PM
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Been using green bearings on the street and strip for the last 15+ years. No issues.
CHIP
'70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60
'69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60
'71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75
'73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75
'90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt
'06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/06/16 12:32 PM
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For those that do not know that the Green type axle bearings, all of them, are ball bearings, nothing more, nothing less They work, but there not the best for long hard aggressive street or track racing Think about the contact surfaces on a ball bearing and race and then the same on a tapered Timken roller bearing, how many ball bearings, the O.D. of the balls in each green bearing and how many tapered roller bearings and how much supporting surface contact there is on them More specific, I believe the Green bearings are double row ball bearings. Years ago I looked up the design specifications for both the stock and the greens. IIRC, the tapered roller bearings had something like 4x the side load capacity of the green bearings. But, the green bearing side loading was pretty high. Again, something like a 4g skid pad type of turn would have to be needed to get to the design load of the green bearing. I know my Road Runner isn't capable of 4g turns on a skid pad. But constant side loading could shorten the life of the bearing. This is going back a ways when I looked this up, maybe like 20 years ago. Finally we are getting some factual data instead of opinions. Both bearing designs will function if used within their design parameters. Due to the design differences their life expectancy will be compromised when they are used in less than ideal conditions. Ball bearings preceded the Timken design by several decades. The Timken design was developed to overcome the shortcomings of the ball bearing in demanding applications. Pretty simple really 
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: TJP]
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09/06/16 02:43 PM
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If all this stuff about side loading was really that important to street and race cars, all of us would be using full-floating truck rear ends in our cars like they use in NASCAR....
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1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver.
2008 Honda Element
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
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09/06/16 03:01 PM
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For those that do not know that the Green type axle bearings, all of them, are ball bearings, nothing more, nothing less They work, but there not the best for long hard aggressive street or track racing Think about the contact surfaces on a ball bearing and race and then the same on a tapered Timken roller bearing, how many ball bearings, the O.D. of the balls in each green bearing and how many tapered roller bearings and how much supporting surface contact there is on them More specific, I believe the Green bearings are double row ball bearings. Years ago I looked up the design specifications for both the stock and the greens. IIRC, the tapered roller bearings had something like 4x the side load capacity of the green bearings. But, the green bearing side loading was pretty high. Again, something like a 4g skid pad type of turn would have to be needed to get to the design load of the green bearing. I know my Road Runner isn't capable of 4g turns on a skid pad. But constant side loading could shorten the life of the bearing. This is going back a ways when I looked this up, maybe like 20 years ago. Finally we are getting some factual data instead of opinions. Both bearing designs will function if used within their design parameters. Due to the design differences their life expectancy will be compromised when they are used in less than ideal conditions. Ball bearings preceded the Timken design by several decades. The Timken design was developed to overcome the shortcomings of the ball bearing in demanding applications. Pretty simple really they are not double row bearings
1968 Charger COLD A/C Hilborn EFI
512ci 9.7 compression, Stealth heads, 4.10 gear A518 ODtrans 4100lb,10.93 full street car trim
2020 T/A 392 Stock 11.79 @ 114.5
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Re: Green bearings ÉÉ
[Re: Stanton]
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09/06/16 03:08 PM
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I have been running a set of Green Bearings in my 70 dart for 15+ years now. No issues.
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1967 barracuda fastback BB
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I've been hearing these arguments for and against greens for 40 years and still no concensus.