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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
[Re: 420SIX]
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10/19/07 11:33 AM
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Not an A12 owner guys but my Roadrunner does have the black out hood treatment. Is this the same paint? Thanks guys.
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
[Re: beepbeep]
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10/19/07 02:33 PM
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Frank says their formula is made from the last of the original PPG stuff..The 9355 formula is going to be wrong.......
Unless something has changed very recently RG's organosol was urathane not lacquar.
It is acrylic lacquer
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
[Re: 420SIX]
#21258
10/19/07 11:06 PM
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Frank says their formula is made from the last of the original PPG stuff..The 9355 formula is going to be wrong.......
Unless something has changed very recently RG's organosol was urathane not lacquar.
It is acrylic lacquer
Just bought some from him a few months ago. Doesn't say in his catalog that it's lacquer, and most of his other specialty paints are enamel! I called and asked Frank what I'm supposed to do with it since my car is painted in urethane enamel. He told me that it's my painter's problem!! What a tool!
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
[Re: 420SIX]
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10/20/07 01:16 PM
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my car is painted in urethane enamel
This should not matter, since lacuer was used over enamel originaly without any catylization like is used today.
simply try a test spray to make sure it does not lift on a scrap piece of metal. Your painter "should" know if he can do this or not. (I have only used it over enamel).
Now to the texture of hood blackout.
1). 9423 IS NOT IT.
2). For comparison of an original fine texture which i think is being referred to? look at original untouched dash and steering column paint, you will see that it is not the same as deck trim panel paint 9355, and is comparable to the hood black out texture.
3). Could it be that there was another paint vendor that supplied product to chrysler?
YES, Now which one was it?
Since that mfg no longer has laquers (you will have to find a very old mixing bench and formulas), it is going to require more use of ones resourses to come up with the comparison paint.
Mike
I have LOTS experinece with OE textured paints.
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
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10/21/07 12:51 PM
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my car is painted in urethane enamel
This should not matter, since lacuer was used over enamel originaly without any catylization like is used today.
Lacquer was able to be applied over factory paint because it was baked enamel, not fresh urethane. Even if it doesn't lift on a test panel, I would NEVER take a chance on spraying lacquer over a freshly enameled car, catylized or not!
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
[Re: 420SIX]
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01/29/08 03:32 PM
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I have used both the PPG Duracryl Organosol and the PPG DCC urethane Organosol.I also have several examples of original Organosol on my original paint 69 Road Runner fender and 69 Charger tailpanel,as well as other original paint Organosol finishes I have studied.Here's what I found: PPG Organosol mixed in DCC urethane is very close.Nice semi smooth finish and semi flat black finish.Closely matches original Chrysler finish which is actually metallic flat black. PPG organosol mixed in Duracryl lacquer produces a gritty finish more like dash panels etc.While it is a cool finish,it is not correct in my opinion.I have seen original AAR cudas,A12 cars and V21 Road Runners,Chargers and 71 Dusters etc,and they never had the gritty finish like we see on the show cars nowdays. Yes the textured organosol looks cool-but it does not look correct to me. 
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
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01/30/08 06:01 PM
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I have used both the PPG Duracryl Organosol and the PPG DCC urethane Organosol.I also have several examples of original Organosol on my original paint 69 Road Runner fender and 69 Charger tailpanel,as well as other original paint Organosol finishes I have studied.Here's what I found:
PPG Organosol mixed in DCC urethane is very close.Nice semi smooth finish and semi flat black finish.Closely matches original Chrysler finish which is actually metallic flat black.
PPG organosol mixed in Duracryl lacquer produces a gritty finish more like dash panels etc.While it is a cool finish,it is not correct in my opinion.I have seen original AAR cudas,A12 cars and V21 Road Runners,Chargers and 71 Dusters etc,and they never had the gritty finish like we see on the show cars nowdays.
Yes the textured organosol looks cool-but it does not look correct to me.
 
Who knows? The Shadow Knows! But he ain't on this fraking forum!
"This restoration is a test,, It is ONLY a test, Had this been an actual Restoration I would have received instructions on what to do and where to get the MONEY!"
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
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01/30/08 09:30 PM
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my birthday in mopar history - yeh baby 
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Re: Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969
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11/30/08 05:02 PM
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This is a lil off the subject matter, but whats the correct organsol formula for the tail panels on the 1970 RT/SE cars?? I thought it had some gray in it, or am I mistaken?? Thanks
Last edited by gomangoRTSE; 11/30/08 05:03 PM.
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....wanted a "paint school" lesson over the phone,......won't even go into the "incorrect" parts he knowingly wanted and purchased for a customers "correct", big $$$$$$$ restoration 
Just bumping this up to see if anyone has anything new to add on this subject since I will need to advise my paint guy.