Organosol "The Bulletin" January 15, 1969

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Your library of info is amazing! Do you think this is how the hood is done? I know that my hood is too gritty the way it is now and I'm kind of leaning toward the way it looks in the current special Hot Rod which is way smoother.

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John, someone that I respect quite a lot with Mopar restoration told me to look for paint code 9407 that this may be the "missing link" for the A12 and AAR/T/A hood paint. I asked if anyone here knew what 9407 was but as of now no reply.

I have this (see attachment) and the Dupont, R-M, and PPG paint chips but there is nothing on 9407 or any black except the 88L and Organosol.

MikeR

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I wonder if it's a PPG number? I have been using PPG Duracryl #9355 but it's just too gritty.

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That is what I have found to be the best solution to this Organisol paint situation. I painted 4 different 6bbl hoods over the years all with trying different thinner levels, temperature , air pressure etc. Always too much grit.

I shot PPG 9355 and used the slowest reducer. I was able to make a normal pass, followed by a pass going across what I just shot. It goes on like primer looking like it will be rough, but it flows out and lays down really nice with the slow reducer. I let it flash and then two more passes, criscrossing. Here is a picture of the results. Not an A12 hood but it is on a plastic bubble and a fiberglass hood scoop. I loved the way it cooperated and turned out. It matches the finish on an original A12 hood dead on.

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Are you sure the PPG number isn't 9437? I have some of this and it is labled 9437 organisol in which I used to restore the tail light panel on a 69 R/T Charger and it turned out perfect. Man did it dry down very nice. I can't wait to spray my hood. Not to gritty at all and just the look I want for mine!

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The original PPG number was DDL 9355, the "L" means laquer. Most paint suppliers do not mix laquer anymore. They can pull up the 9355 formula in the computer and mix it as an enamel. It works much better than the laquer. That is why you can use the slower reducer.
The code is correct. After using this I would never shoot the laquer Or"crap"asol again. Same correct formula just enamel.
Organasol works well on small panels etc. but when you try to spray it on large areas it goes on too dry, therefore it gets rough. It leaves uneven stripes because of the over spray from the gun on a large area.

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That's why I asked the above question. Laquer and reducer don't mix well.

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I just finished spraying an A12 hood with
9355 lacquer which I bought and had mixed at my
local PPg supplier and i mesed it up the first
time by spraying it on too heavy and wet cause of hearing all the complaints of hoods being too gritty.i had too sand it all down cause the texture all went to the bottom.This time I mixed
it 150% with slow lacquer thinner and sprayed it on Medium wet and it went on perfect.It is
supposed to have texture,this hood feels like
220-320 grit sandpaper and i think that is what it is supposed to look like.Use a gravity feed
gun to spray it with so you can spray it with
lower air pressure.Siphon feed guns require about
45 psi and i think that is where the dry or zebra
stripes come into play.I used a Sata HVLP with
1.4 tip and it sprayed even and no stripes or
dry spray.it looks good in my book.

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Thanks for posting those Jeff. Do you have any shots close up that might show the texure you achieved using this technique?

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Tav

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Don't wait for me, I originally posted this December 17, 2005 and Jeff dug it up and it to the top. If I were painting an AAR, T/A hood or an A12 Lift-Off-Hood I would seriously look into this "Note";


NOTE: Engine exterior area of hood to be painted with
2183385 Exterior Air Dry Organsol Paint AX5DX8 Black,
prior to installing hood retaining parts. 1-16-69


Painters out there, does this make any sense? Are the paint codes still relevant?



MikeR


I'm with you on this


BTW Tav, you seem to be waiting for something (from me?? ) in another few re-posts of mine, anything I can do to help let me know because I'm a little


MikeR

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I originally posted this December 17, 2005 and Jeff dug it up and it to the top.
MikeR

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Not sure if this helps but that AX5DX8 black seems to be an actual factory< in house> paint code. I know from working in the chrysler facility I was stationed at all of our quart cans and gallon cans of paint material all had an extra label secured over the original along with extra paint codes on it. This was to reduce the amount of lunch pail theft as you weren't really sure of what you were taking without peeling the outside label off. Just a thought. My paint supplier told me that the only codes for organisol in his books from 1969 were the 9355 which probably is correct for doing the rocker blackout as well as the tail panels for chargers etc. as listed on that TSB. He did give me another product which I had forgotten about which is called High Performance Black DDL 9381. That number has been changed to DDL 9423. I remember painting the glass hood for my dads T/A Challenger with this years ago and it seems like it might be the right stuff. I am going over to his shop and look around and see if I can find that gallon can. Has anyone tried using the DDL9423?

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Joey, for sure that is the factory paint code (AX5DX8) for the A12 hoods (and maybe the AAR/T/A too?) and then the 9407 was from memory by a good friend and excellent source and he may be off on the last two numbers because he used the "94" several times until he settled for 9407. The DDL9423 may be the "missing link" for the closest match to the hood paint


MikeR

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None of the Organosols today are anywhere near the originals, both the metallic and suede used originally is no longer available.

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Frank says their formula is made from the last of the original PPG stuff..The 9355 formula is going to be wrong.......

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Frank says their formula is made from the last of the original PPG stuff..The 9355 formula is going to be wrong.......

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Unless something has changed very recently RG's organosol was urathane not lacquar.

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Frank says their formula is made from the last of the original PPG stuff..The 9355 formula is going to be wrong.......

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Unless something has changed very recently RG's organosol was urathane not lacquar.

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It is acrylic lacquer

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Just bought some from him a few months ago. Doesn't say in his catalog that it's lacquer, and most of his other specialty paints are enamel! I called and asked Frank what I'm supposed to do with it since my car is painted in urethane enamel. He told me that it's my painter's problem!! What a tool!