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Re: Alky and timing [Re: sr4440] #2109068
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I agree with sr4440 on the leak down tester. I also use the wack method. I also wouldn't add the confusion of a high speed by pass until you get a handle on the base tuneup.

Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109362
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SR440 nailed it and 22% seems like alot with that size engine. Thinking it should be more closer to 17%

Re: Alky and timing [Re: sccuda] #2109489
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Here are 2 picturesof the motor...

Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109491
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If you look to the left of the water pump you can see the by pass it put back inline..

Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109492
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Rons has very good customer service. You might give him a call to help get a base tune to start with. Does motor make any heat at idle? I agree it sounds like it is very fat at idle. Don't give up. Injection can be tough at first.

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Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109493
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Dang that's cool, get some video of that thing.
I like it

Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109495
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what is that by-pass set at? there is only one by-pass in system?

Re: Alky and timing [Re: WedgeFED] #2109499
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Motor makes a little heat but I haven't let it run long enough to move to temperature gauge..the block is filled to the bottom of the water pump holes..I called rons and that's what I'm going by great guys there but as was said earlier I think each is going to be different but he did give me a baseline to work off of..my buddies car is blown with injection he helps me as much as he can but his is alot different being blown and other stuff ..I just don't wanna mess this thing up again last year cost me having the crank fixed from cylinder full of alky.

Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109504
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Similar to the injectorator system.

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Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109505
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yep only down fall of alky. cannot ever leave any in motor. clean out after every race.

Re: Alky and timing [Re: WedgeFED] #2109511
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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
what is that by-pass set at? there is only one by-pass in system?




I pulled the by pass apart it has a 70 in it..

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What pressure is it set to open at?

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Originally Posted By B1HEAD_USER
What pressure is it set to open at?




Ron told me 60 lbs open .

Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109573
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Is the HS mounted directly to the pump? I mean without a hose (vibration absorption)between the HS and the pump? If it is, the vibration of the engine could knock the valve off the seat. put a short -6 hose between the 3-way and the HS.
This doesn't have anything to do with you milking the oil, but could be a issue later.

The reason I wanted to see the pics is because i seen incorrect routing of fuel line cause big time fuel in oil. yours looks good as long as the HS and main return don't combine going into the tank.

If you have not already, might i suggest looking over the kinsler handbook, it get good around page 14

http://kinsler.com/images/CATALOG/072707/Cat56Pg_Whole_LR.pdf

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The hs is directly to the tee I'll add some line to it ..thanks for the link I'll read it and hopefully learn more of this set up ..I hate to kill the motor again lol

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I may be confused but is there not a idle bypass or main bypass? One bypass at 60 psi would make system very fat. I could be missing something. Have not messed with a rons system.

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Originally Posted By WedgeFED
I may be confused but is there not a idle bypass or main bypass? One bypass at 60 psi would make system very fat. I could be missing something. Have not messed with a rons system.



No idle by pass my friend suggest I get 1 ..the hs is the only thing in the line ..filter before pump tee with 1 line going to ball valve the other line going to the hs by pass to the tank and 1 line coming off the ball valve return to the tank ..

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Rons shows an idle by pass in their systems.

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Re: Alky and timing [Re: earthmover] #2109667
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look at your output fitting coming out of the barrel valve, you should see a steel ball with a spring holding it against its seat. That is your idle check valve. they will work without it, but setting the idle is tricky.

the ron's combination valve doesn't have a idle bypass port the way a enderle K valve does. it uses a main pill with a idle check valve behind it.

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Re: Alky and timing [Re: sr4440] #2109668
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Originally Posted By sr4440
look at your output fitting coming out of the barrel valve, you should see a steel ball with a spring holding it against its seat. That is your idle check valve. they will work without it, but setting the idle is tricky.


Joe




Yes it does have that in the fitting..also I just pulled things apart to check ..barrel valve has a 86 jet 37 nozzles 70 jet in by pass ..

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