setting valve spring height
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when setting spring height on Edelbrock Performer RPM head for a big block, the set height is 1.800 . Is there a + - tolerance ?
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: setting valve spring height
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That`s what we did on mine.............
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Re: setting valve spring height
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And just as important is stem height.
Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
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Re: setting valve spring height
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I just shimmed a set of springs last weekend and I was able to get them all within +/-.010". Having a set of .060", .030", and .015" shims handy sure helped.
Before I started, I searched the internet and found some company's/people suggesting +/-.020" all the way down to +/-.005" on the installed height.
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Re: setting valve spring height
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Re: setting valve spring height
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Jeff at Modern Cylinder Head set them up before he passed. There 1.5 dia. triple springs, don't know why he went that way on a solid lifter cam and I didn't get the info of the manufacture of the spring set so I don't know what the spec.'s should be. I don't have a spring pressure checker but from just going through a rough set up on one head I was getting around -.005 to a +.003 so I guess that's close enough. I'll check for coil bind also.
it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead
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Re: setting valve spring height
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Those springs are probally a double spring with a flat dampener in between the inner and outer valve springs I'm sure Jeff set them up correclty for your cam type and lift, if you furnish him that information Due to the differences in rocker arm and the ratio errors try and check for coil bind at max lift below the retainers on all the valve springs, all 16 of them I like to see minimum of .060 between the coils they will vary, I've seen some that had .060 in some places and .030 to .090 in other places on the same set
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Re: setting valve spring height
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I generally get them as close as I can. But on most heads if you want them right on you can set them on the high side and then machine the difference of the spring seat as long as its a very small amount. Ron
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Re: setting valve spring height
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Jeff at Modern Cylinder Head set them up before he passed. There 1.5 dia. triple springs, don't know why he went that way on a solid lifter cam and I didn't get the info of the manufacture of the spring set so I don't know what the spec.'s should be. I suggest getting all your springs tested so you have some idea what Jeff set them up to be. When it comes time to buy new springs, you will then have some idea. Too bad you did not get the spring part number(s).
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Re: setting valve spring height
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Those springs are probally a double spring with a flat dampener in between the inner and outer valve springs Good thought! A double spring with a damper.
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Re: setting valve spring height
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.100" from coil bind is a good number to set your installed height at..... ( valve lift + spring coil bind =.... )- installed height= number from coil bind.....shim accordingly
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Re: setting valve spring height
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I surely hope guys aren't going by the manufactures advertised spring height installed and advertised pressures. Each and every height should be measured and the springs set up on a calibrated spring pressure checker
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