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Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: B G Racing] #199530
01/21/09 02:14 PM
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How about spraying them with WD40 or Liquid wrench (the blue can with teflon) to clean them?

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: B G Racing] #199531
01/21/09 02:18 PM
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Bob, you are killing me

oh by the way empty your pm's so I can bug ya some more.


Can't never be too careful,I get the sniff test everytime I come home,by 3 dogs and the wife.Remind me to tell you about the dog humping my leg one night and after I changed cloths he got the jeans out of the hamper and proceeded to molest them infront of Debby,If looks could kill PMs empty,wondered why it was so quite.


Me thanks you and Fred are related Way to deep into other non normal sexual related activitys


Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)
Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: runya] #199532
01/21/09 02:25 PM
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WD-40 attracts(gathers) moisture and water bubbles will form on the bearings and also acts as a penetrate as does liquid wrench and others.I would suggest a teflon coating spray or dry spray.Many lubercants allow bacterial growth over long periods of time.As RyanJ stated never unpackage them till your ready to use them.Short term exposure is fine as long as they are in a temperture controlled enviroment.

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: B G Racing] #199533
01/21/09 02:31 PM
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Sounds good ...thanks.

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: Cab_Burge] #199534
01/21/09 02:38 PM
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Bob, you are killing me

oh by the way empty your pm's so I can bug ya some more.


Can't never be too careful,I get the sniff test everytime I come home,by 3 dogs and the wife.Remind me to tell you about the dog humping my leg one night and after I changed cloths he got the jeans out of the hamper and proceeded to molest them infront of Debby,If looks could kill PMs empty,wondered why it was so quite.


Me thanks you and Fred are related Way to deep into other non normal sexual related activitys


Cab,It's the "normal sex" that gets me in trouble,the "non normal" she don't care about or wont belive

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: B G Racing] #199535
01/21/09 11:32 PM
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some time ago i sent out 3 sets of coated bearings -1/+1 and std size to a customer. he figured out which ones he needed and sent the others back. not thinking much about it at the time i put them on the shelf and there they sat for a couple of months. little did i think to look at them and make sure they were clean and not abused.
fast forward to an occasion where i needed a -1 set of bearings. the fingerprints destroyed not only the Calico coating, but the lead/indium layer just crumbled apart too.
they weren't even good enough for mock up bearings and went in the trash pronto. bearings could sit in oil forever, but fingerprints left on them will take their toll for sure.

Re: Bearings and fingerprints #199536
01/22/09 12:01 AM
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Well,, I/we/they Engine systems touch every bearing that goes in every motor ever done and will continue to do so. I've found things wrong with bearings by feeling them that being "sterile" with them I'd have never found. Agreed you can't put something on a bearing and sit in a window sill to bake. Finger oil, lemon drops, alligator tears, chewing tobacco spit, BBQ sauce and so on. But outside of gold and titanium that goes for all metal. I think the spirit of the question was whether bearings should be handled or not during assembly and the answer is, yes you should. Hole in the sheet treatment of an engine isn't healthy.

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: dthemi] #199537
01/22/09 12:10 AM
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i'm not totally sure of what the intent of the original post was. i just wanted to share my experience.
as far as touching bearings goes, i touch every one of them i install in an engine as i put assembly lube on them. that's not quite the same as leaving fingerprints on them though, especially if it's for an undetermined amount of time.

Re: Bearings and fingerprints #199538
01/22/09 12:24 AM
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I bet you've found flaws with your fingers, your eyes couldn't find too. I really think the old fingers, and nails are some of the best diagnostic tools we have. Since we're not making medicine and we don't use optical comparators and microscopes to look at everything, the fingers are great! I still after checking a hone finish with a profilometer drag my nails over it, and I'm as accurate as the meter

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: dthemi] #199539
01/22/09 01:29 AM
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havent built a big block, or a small block, but 2 strokes, i was a pro at it.

did a little research from the old man and pretty much figured it out myself, if i locked one up and there was nothing visible in the cylinder, i could feel the problem, and know it was no good. you get the point.

i think this stuff is in my genes

John

Re: Bearings and fingerprints [Re: SealockRacing] #199540
01/22/09 09:17 AM
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No one's intent was to say bearings can't be handled during assembly.We hand massage every bearing we install,clean and file any burrs and etc.We make sure the final assembly be with clean hands and parts.We see results of a lot of contamination on engines that are torn down for rebuild and repair that could have be avoided if clean ,careful and common sence were used in final assembly.We recently had a guy bring in an engine that he sprayed the inside of the block with Rustoleoum paint including the cam bearing.His fix is to use lacquer thinner and scotch brite pads to clean all his bearings encluding mains and rods also.

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