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1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact #1964942 12/07/15 03:53 PM 12/07/15 03:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,149 Bristol, CT R RalphsRapidTrnst OP top fuel
RalphsRapidTrnst OP top fuel R Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,149 Bristol, CT	This past weekend I picked up the final peices to my next project 1972 Charger Rallye 440 4Spd. I was talking to the owner who ordered the Charger New in 1972. I asked, "why didn't you get the exhaust tips" He told me he couldn't? They were not available with the 440 4Spd option. He would of had to go with a 440 Auto or 400 4Spd if he wanted the exhasut tips. I thought that was interesting. I figured must be a sales man goof. Then on my ride home I remember my 1972 RR/GTX 440 4Spd. has no tips? Is this true? Any thoughts from the Moparts guru's. Is this true, if you wanted a 440 4Spd B-Body in 1972 you did not have the option of getting exhaust tips? Any other survivor owners out there have a 1972 440 4Spd Body with no tips? Last edited by RalphsRapidTrnst; 12/07/15 04:31 PM. A Collection Of All Things Chrysler www.RalphsRapidTransit.com Stock Appearing MuscleCar Racing www.SuperCarRaces.com

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #1964954 12/07/15 04:21 PM 12/07/15 04:21 PM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,650 Hamtramck, PA	See the line for N42 on the page at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Charger0012.jpg

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1964960 12/07/15 04:26 PM 12/07/15 04:26 PM
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RalphsRapidTrnst OP top fuel R Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,149 Bristol, CT	Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA See the line for N42 on the page at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Charger0012.jpg YUP! U are the man TY... Will change the post to FACT! Same deal for Plymouth? Last edited by RalphsRapidTrnst; 12/07/15 04:27 PM. A Collection Of All Things Chrysler www.RalphsRapidTransit.com Stock Appearing MuscleCar Racing www.SuperCarRaces.com

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #1964970 12/07/15 04:34 PM 12/07/15 04:34 PM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,650 Hamtramck, PA	The Plymouth version words it a little differently. http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Satellite_25.jpg

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #1964971 12/07/15 04:35 PM 12/07/15 04:35 PM
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69CoronetRT master Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 8,948 Harlan, Iowa	I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission. Seeking: 1969 St. Louis plant VINs, SPD, and VONs. Over 2,000 thanks to you!

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1965039 12/07/15 06:24 PM 12/07/15 06:24 PM
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RJS master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,224 JERSEY	I love when people talk 1972 B-Body!!!!!!!!! Ron

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #1965469 12/08/15 11:20 AM 12/08/15 11:20 AM
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scatpacktom master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,103 Phila Pa	The Orig Owner of my 72 GTX (which is automatic) claims he ordered exhaust tips. When the car came in and it didn't have them he freaked out. They told him something like "you can't get them on that car". He was still really upset about it. I think somehow he thinks he ordered it but didn't. He did tell me he sat down with the salesman,took out his pen and drew a line through all the options. The salesman said "oh you want a stripper" and he replied "NO I want EVERYTHING". Who knows? He also was still quite PO'ed that the car wasn't delivered with the microphone for the cassette recorder. I made a comment like "well what were you going to do with that anyway"? He looked at me like I was a [censored] and told me back then he was a drummer in a band and at the end of the night he would be driving home all smoked up and drunk, he would have these brilliant ideas for the band. He knew there was no chance of remembering them the next morning. He could have been a star if plymouth only shipped that microphone with the GTX. He said the dealer STILL owes it to him

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: scatpacktom] #1965523 12/08/15 01:04 PM 12/08/15 01:04 PM
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fk5hemi member F Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 129 fargo,nd	My 72 GTX 440 auto is coded for N42 on fender tag. It came out of Windsor plant.

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: scatpacktom] #1965546 12/08/15 01:36 PM 12/08/15 01:36 PM
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RalphsRapidTrnst OP top fuel R Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,149 Bristol, CT	Originally Posted By scatpacktom The Orig Owner of my 72 GTX (which is automatic) claims he ordered exhaust tips. When the car came in and it didn't have them he freaked out. They told him something like "you can't get them on that car". He was still really upset about it. I think somehow he thinks he ordered it but didn't. He did tell me he sat down with the salesman,took out his pen and drew a line through all the options. The salesman said "oh you want a stripper" and he replied "NO I want EVERYTHING". Who knows? He also was still quite PO'ed that the car wasn't delivered with the microphone for the cassette recorder. I made a comment like "well what were you going to do with that anyway"? He looked at me like I was a [censored] and told me back then he was a drummer in a band and at the end of the night he would be driving home all smoked up and drunk, he would have these brilliant ideas for the band. He knew there was no chance of remembering them the next morning. He could have been a star if plymouth only shipped that microphone with the GTX. He said the dealer STILL owes it to him LOL Love it!!! A Collection Of All Things Chrysler www.RalphsRapidTransit.com Stock Appearing MuscleCar Racing www.SuperCarRaces.com

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: RalphsRapidTrnst] #1965647 12/08/15 04:15 PM 12/08/15 04:15 PM
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Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,523 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed? The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Rhinodart] #1965668 12/08/15 04:43 PM 12/08/15 04:43 PM
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RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	Originally Posted By Rhinodart So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed? Worked fine in '71... Although, 6-bbl. and Hemi had resonators... The only restriction I know of in '71 was N/A on the west coast due to 'noise'... Maybe that intensified in '72... Which leads to the next question... What about '73???

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Rhinodart] #1965699 12/08/15 05:08 PM 12/08/15 05:08 PM
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John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,757 Rio Linda, CA	Originally Posted By Rhinodart So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed? The tips are probably a noise related restriction, Kalifornia banned them even with automatics. I've often wondered about those accessory restrictions too. Lots of them make no sense....like no A/C with the 440HP and 4-speed. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: RSNOMO] #1965770 12/08/15 06:36 PM 12/08/15 06:36 PM
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1969HEMI Unregistered 1	Originally Posted By RS23U1G Originally Posted By Rhinodart So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed? Worked fine in '71... Although, 6-bbl. and Hemi had resonators... The only restriction I know of in '71 was N/A on the west coast due to 'noise'... Maybe that intensified in '72... Which leads to the next question... What about '73??? Easy answer to the last question. Nobody cares about any cars built after 1972.................................. ... Last edited by 1969HEMI; 12/08/15 06:37 PM.

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: John_Kunkel] #1966041 12/09/15 12:43 AM 12/09/15 12:43 AM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Originally Posted By John_Kunkel Lots of them make no sense....like no A/C with the 440HP and 4-speed. It's because Ma Mopar equipped them with 3.54 gears standard. Few cars during the era were available with AC and those gears.

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: 69CoronetRT] #1967346 12/10/15 09:17 PM 12/10/15 09:17 PM
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Butterscotch71 Lost Title Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,334 home of the Buckeyes	Originally Posted By 69CoronetRT I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission. 19 U code 4spd runners (72) on file here, none with N42. addict:to devote or surrender (oneself) to something habitually or obsessively ....hmmmm

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #1967615 12/11/15 10:40 AM 12/11/15 10:40 AM
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Tempest mopar Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 595 Nashville, Tennessee	Originally Posted By Diego (not Ted) Originally Posted By John_Kunkel Lots of them make no sense....like no A/C with the 440HP and 4-speed. It's because Ma Mopar equipped them with 3.54 gears standard. Few cars during the era were available with AC and those gears. Same with GM. They did not want to warranty AC compressors with the higher RPM. So standard with AC was 3.08.

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Butterscotch71] #1967664 12/11/15 12:35 PM 12/11/15 12:35 PM
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clonestocker top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,155 Tucson, Arizona	Originally Posted By Butterscotch71 Originally Posted By 69CoronetRT I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission. 19 U code 4spd runners (72) on file here, none with N42. There's one in town here that hasn't moved in years. I bet it's not on your list. [img] [/img]

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Rhinodart] #1968131 12/12/15 01:10 AM 12/12/15 01:10 AM
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keith airgrabber Right in the Nutz!!! K Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 422 wisconsin united states	Interesting.I have a 72 gtx 4-speed. I don't have tips either. Always thought they just weren't ordered. I don't recall ever seeing tips on a 440 72 car now that i think about it. Weird . I thought maybe in California You couldn't get tips. Last edited by keith airgrabber; 12/12/15 01:12 AM.

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: Tempest] #1968207 12/12/15 03:36 AM 12/12/15 03:36 AM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Originally Posted By Tempest Same with GM. They did not want to warranty AC compressors with the higher RPM. So standard with AC was 3.08. Perhaps for a car you're thinking of, but not true as a blanket statement.

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact [Re: keith airgrabber] #1968373 12/12/15 02:44 PM 12/12/15 02:44 PM
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72roadrunnergtx super stock Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 765 Shoreline, Washington	Originally Posted By keith airgrabber Interesting.I have a 72 gtx 4-speed. I don't have tips either. Always thought they just weren't ordered. I don't recall ever seeing tips on a 440 72 car now that i think about it. Weird . I thought maybe in California You couldn't get tips. My California spec ’72 RR/GTX Auto, came with tips originally. 1972 Road Runner GTX 440 6bbl 5-speed [img]http://72rrgtx.com/carpics/bucket/DSC06730r-1.jpg[/img]

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