1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact

1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/07/15 07:53 PM

This past weekend I picked up the final peices to my next project 1972 Charger Rallye 440 4Spd. I was talking to the owner who ordered the Charger New in 1972. I asked, "why didn't you get the exhaust tips" He told me he couldn't? They were not available with the 440 4Spd option. He would of had to go with a 440 Auto or 400 4Spd if he wanted the exhasut tips. I thought that was interesting. I figured must be a sales man goof. Then on my ride home I remember my 1972 RR/GTX 440 4Spd. has no tips? Is this true? Any thoughts from the Moparts guru's.

Is this true, if you wanted a 440 4Spd B-Body in 1972 you did not have the option of getting exhaust tips? Any other survivor owners out there have a 1972 440 4Spd Body with no tips?

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Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/07/15 08:21 PM

See the line for N42 on the page at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Charger0012.jpg

Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/07/15 08:26 PM

Originally Posted By Alaskan_TA

See the line for N42 on the page at http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Charger0012.jpg

YUP! U are the man TY... Will change the post to FACT! Same deal for Plymouth?

Posted By: Alaskan_TA

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/07/15 08:34 PM

The Plymouth version words it a little differently.

http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Satellite_25.jpg

Posted By: 69CoronetRT

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/07/15 08:35 PM

I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission.

Posted By: RJS

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/07/15 10:24 PM

I love when people talk 1972 B-Body!!!!!!!!!
Ron

Posted By: scatpacktom

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 03:20 PM

The Orig Owner of my 72 GTX (which is automatic) claims he ordered exhaust tips. When the car came in and it didn't have them he freaked out. They told him something like "you can't get them on that car". He was still really upset about it. I think somehow he thinks he ordered it but didn't. He did tell me he sat down with the salesman,took out his pen and drew a line through all the options. The salesman said "oh you want a stripper" and he replied "NO I want EVERYTHING". Who knows?

He also was still quite PO'ed that the car wasn't delivered with the microphone for the cassette recorder. I made a comment like "well what were you going to do with that anyway"? He looked at me like I was a [censored] and told me back then he was a drummer in a band and at the end of the night he would be driving home all smoked up and drunk, he would have these brilliant ideas for the band. He knew there was no chance of remembering them the next morning.

He could have been a star if plymouth only shipped that microphone with the GTX.

He said the dealer STILL owes it to him

Posted By: fk5hemi

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 05:04 PM

My 72 GTX 440 auto is coded for N42 on fender tag. It came out of Windsor plant.

Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 05:36 PM

Originally Posted By scatpacktom

The Orig Owner of my 72 GTX (which is automatic) claims he ordered exhaust tips. When the car came in and it didn't have them he freaked out. They told him something like "you can't get them on that car". He was still really upset about it. I think somehow he thinks he ordered it but didn't. He did tell me he sat down with the salesman,took out his pen and drew a line through all the options. The salesman said "oh you want a stripper" and he replied "NO I want EVERYTHING". Who knows?

He also was still quite PO'ed that the car wasn't delivered with the microphone for the cassette recorder. I made a comment like "well what were you going to do with that anyway"? He looked at me like I was a [censored] and told me back then he was a drummer in a band and at the end of the night he would be driving home all smoked up and drunk, he would have these brilliant ideas for the band. He knew there was no chance of remembering them the next morning.

He could have been a star if plymouth only shipped that microphone with the GTX.

He said the dealer STILL owes it to him

LOL Love it!!!

Posted By: Rhinodart

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 08:15 PM

So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed?

Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 08:43 PM

Originally Posted By Rhinodart

So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed?

Worked fine in '71...

Although, 6-bbl. and Hemi had resonators...

The only restriction I know of in '71 was N/A on the west coast due to 'noise'...

Maybe that intensified in '72...

Which leads to the next question...

What about '73???

Posted By: John_Kunkel

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 09:08 PM

Originally Posted By Rhinodart

So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed?

The tips are probably a noise related restriction, Kalifornia banned them even with automatics.

I've often wondered about those accessory restrictions too. Lots of them make no sense....like no A/C with the 440HP and 4-speed.

Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/08/15 10:36 PM

Originally Posted By RS23U1G

Originally Posted By Rhinodart

So someone give a good conjecture as to why they COULDN'T work with a 4-speed?

Worked fine in '71...

Although, 6-bbl. and Hemi had resonators...

The only restriction I know of in '71 was N/A on the west coast due to 'noise'...

Maybe that intensified in '72...

Which leads to the next question...

What about '73???

Easy answer to the last question. Nobody cares about any cars built after 1972.................................. ...

Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/09/15 04:43 AM

Originally Posted By John_Kunkel

Lots of them make no sense....like no A/C with the 440HP and 4-speed.

It's because Ma Mopar equipped them with 3.54 gears standard. Few cars during the era were available with AC and those gears.

Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/11/15 01:17 AM

Originally Posted By 69CoronetRT

I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission.

19 U code 4spd runners (72) on file here, none with N42.

Posted By: Tempest

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/11/15 02:40 PM

Originally Posted By Diego (not Ted)

Originally Posted By John_Kunkel

Lots of them make no sense....like no A/C with the 440HP and 4-speed.

It's because Ma Mopar equipped them with 3.54 gears standard. Few cars during the era were available with AC and those gears.

Same with GM. They did not want to warranty AC compressors with the higher RPM. So standard with AC was 3.08.

Posted By: clonestocker

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/11/15 04:35 PM

Originally Posted By Butterscotch71

Originally Posted By 69CoronetRT

I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission.

19 U code 4spd runners (72) on file here, none with N42.

There's one in town here that hasn't moved in years. I bet it's not on your list.

Posted By: keith airgrabber

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 05:10 AM

Interesting.I have a 72 gtx 4-speed. I don't have tips either. Always thought they just weren't ordered. I don't recall ever seeing tips on a 440 72 car now that i think about it. Weird . I thought maybe in California You couldn't get tips.

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Posted By: Diego (not Ted)

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 07:36 AM

Originally Posted By Tempest

Same with GM. They did not want to warranty AC compressors with the higher RPM. So standard with AC was 3.08.

Perhaps for a car you're thinking of, but not true as a blanket statement.

Posted By: 72roadrunnergtx

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 06:44 PM

Originally Posted By keith airgrabber

Interesting.I have a 72 gtx 4-speed. I don't have tips either. Always thought they just weren't ordered. I don't recall ever seeing tips on a 440 72 car now that i think about it. Weird . I thought maybe in California You couldn't get tips.

My California spec ’72 RR/GTX Auto, came with tips originally.

Posted By: cdp

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 07:31 PM

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/IA0711-112573/0/1972-Plymouth-Road-Runner-GTX-Coupe/4-Speed/

Back around 1996 I had advertised a rear exhaust valance for a 72 roadrunner. I sold to the couple who restored this car, which was featured in Mopar Action as a reference restoration. I think in 97/98.

The tag is pictured her on the mecum sight. N41 only.

Posted By: RSNOMO

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 08:37 PM

Remember it well...

The 'St. Patrick's Day' car...

Posted By: cdp

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 10:35 PM

I want to say McGlauplins was the name who restored/owned.

Posted By: RJS

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/12/15 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By cdp

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/IA0711-112573/0/1972-Plymouth-Road-Runner-GTX-Coupe/4-Speed/

Back around 1996 I had advertised a rear exhaust valance for a 72 roadrunner. I sold to the couple who restored this car, which was featured in Mopar Action as a reference restoration. I think in 97/98.

The tag is pictured her on the mecum sight. N41 only.

Looked at that car at the Atlantic City auction last Feb. It's held up pretty good except for under the hood.
That poor car has to be the most unloved GTX ever, it just goes from Auction to Auction.
Ron

Posted By: Butterscotch71

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/13/15 12:40 AM

Originally Posted By clonestocker

Originally Posted By Butterscotch71

Originally Posted By 69CoronetRT

I have four 72 440 four speed STL built Road Runners on file. None code N42. The 440 automatics do. It appears that Windsor plant did not code N42 regardless of transmission.

19 U code 4spd runners (72) on file here, none with N42.

There's one in town here that hasn't moved in years. I bet it's not on your list.

Probably not, wish I had the info.

Posted By: cdp

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/13/15 04:45 PM

There is a 72 GTX 4spd about 10 miles from me. Been sitting outside for years, but then they moved it inside a barn. Original motor gone. Bench seat, tall 4spd. Autumn bronze, standard hood. Kind of a base car.

Posted By: Joesixpack

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/13/15 11:50 PM

I wish I would have kept this one....back in 1990 they were worth more in parts than the 800 i paid for it...drove it to the garage...

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Posted By: RalphsRapidTrnst

Re: Possible 1972 U-Code B-Body 4 Spd Fact - 12/14/15 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By cdp

https://www.mecum.com/lot-detail/IA0711-112573/0/1972-Plymouth-Road-Runner-GTX-Coupe/4-Speed/

Back around 1996 I had advertised a rear exhaust valance for a 72 roadrunner. I sold to the couple who restored this car, which was featured in Mopar Action as a reference restoration. I think in 97/98.

The tag is pictured her on the mecum sight. N41 only.

I tried buying that RR/GTX twice. Always way to over priced for what you got. Good looking car for green.