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Gen III hemi and 727- Are you satisfied? #1950866
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For those of you using a 727 behind your hemi, are you satisfied with the performance you are getting?

What stall and what rear gear?

Does a high stall make it feel "mushy" around town?

I am trying to make a decision for my Charger. Thanks!

Re: Gen III hemi and 727- Are you satisfied? [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1950887
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What size engine are you building?

I have to same converter that was behind my 700hp 493. Its a 9" ultimate

It had 3.55 gears and felt so slow. The 410s in it now feel much better however i ran slower at DW for whatever reason. It never really feels mushy


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Re: Gen III hemi and 727- Are you satisfied? [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1950888
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I am building a 6.4.

I want a good balance of strip power, and not revving the engine to the moon on a highway trip. I would go to an overdrive if I could find something strong that would not take butchering the floor.

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There wasnt that much difference it seems when i had 355s to now with 410s and a gear vender driving down the highway.

I got 16mpg when i drove like a regular person. 14.5 when driving like the idiot i am with 410s and OD

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Thanks for the info. Just out of curiosity, how does the gen III in your car compare to the big block you had in it before.

Things like off the line grunt, etc?

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With 3" exhaust its only a 1/10 slower but if i opened the cutouts on the BB then the gap gets alot bigger.

The hemi feels alot slower but its not


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I have NAG1 behind a 5.7 in a 70 GTX. I used 2:76 gears to start so it would be comparable to the donor car...ease of swap ill-logic:)....anyway, yes, I had to raise the hump about 3/4" but it was no big deal. The computer WAS an issue but that is easily overcome with an after market TCM. This car will absolutely beat snot out of the 440/727 set up it came with. I have not messed with the gears or done anything to the engine performance wise...yet...just wanted to get it all working first. I'm not a racer so that wasn't any goal I had in mind, however, this car is plenty fast, is an awesome cruise, and gets 20mpg! 73mph at 2000rpm.


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Originally Posted By sixpackgut
With 3" exhaust its only a 1/10 slower but if i opened the cutouts on the BB then the gap gets alot bigger.

The hemi feels alot slower but its not


Probably the hemi has a smoother and wider power band?

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I'd guess the 493 would have a wider power band due to be extra cubes, the extra low end grunt probably helps the seat of the pants, the Gen III is probably like the Gen II is, you have to buzz them up to get the good stuff

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So with an electronic throttle body, what are you guys using for a kick down on a 727? I'm looking to put a 6.1 in front of my 727 in a Ramcharger...


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Re: Gen III hemi and 727- Are you satisfied? [Re: hudsonhornet7x] #1963789
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I'd like to hear some input too. I have a Gen3 426 I'd like to put in front of my A518 but haven't heard of a good solution for the kick down. I know you can get the APP Sensor and adjustable cable but I can't imagine there's not a better option.


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Originally Posted By bkilby
I'd like to hear some input too. I have a Gen3 426 I'd like to put in front of my A518 but haven't heard of a good solution for the kick down. I know you can get the APP Sensor and adjustable cable but I can't imagine there's not a better option.


Could one not run a Lokar throttle cable on the throttle cable and run it to the kick down when using an electronic throttle body?


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Anyone?


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i run a 727 and i am happy.. i do use a cable driven TB ; i modified it to use a lokar kickdown cable. all seem fine

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How did you modify it? Got a pic handy?


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Originally Posted By bkilby
How did you modify it? Got a pic handy?
no, but i will get one and post it.

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Originally Posted By bkilby
How did you modify it? Got a pic handy?
if it works its not silly, it works awesome 1/4" thumb screw

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Originally Posted By mcat4321
Originally Posted By bkilby
How did you modify it? Got a pic handy?
if it works its not silly, it works awesome 1/4" thumb screw


what are you motor mounts -
are you runnin and is this in your challenger?

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Re: Gen III hemi and 727- Are you satisfied? [Re: Darius] #1986991
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Originally Posted By Darius
I have NAG1 behind a 5.7 in a 70 GTX. I used 2:76 gears to start so it would be comparable to the donor car...ease of swap ill-logic:)....anyway, yes, I had to raise the hump about 3/4" but it was no big deal. The computer WAS an issue but that is easily overcome with an after market TCM. This car will absolutely beat snot out of the 440/727 set up it came with. I have not messed with the gears or done anything to the engine performance wise...yet...just wanted to get it all working first. I'm not a racer so that wasn't any goal I had in mind, however, this car is plenty fast, is an awesome cruise, and gets 20mpg! 73mph at 2000rpm.




when you say you had to raise the hump about 3/4", what do you mean? i am looking very hard at putting a nag in my satellite....but wasnt sure if i had to really butcher up the trans tunnel or fab a new one all together. how did you do yours?


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