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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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03/26/15 07:02 PM
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I have low deck Molnar 3.91 cranks in stock. If you are East coast,shipping may be a little less. If your West coast, then maybe 440 Source would be closer. Let me know if I can help,otherwise I am sure Brandon can help you out. 
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: CompWedgeEngines]
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03/26/15 07:41 PM
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I have low deck Molnar 3.91 cranks in stock. If you are East coast,shipping may be a little less. If your West coast, then maybe 440 Source would be closer. Let me know if I can help,otherwise I am sure Brandon can help you out.
Can you tell me if the 2.20 rod journal of the Molnar crank is cut for a Chevy width rod or a Chrysler width rod?
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: PorkyPig]
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03/26/15 09:45 PM
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Can you tell me if the 2.20 rod journal of the Molnar crank is cut for a Chevy width rod or a Chrysler width rod?
The one I have here is 2.010 wide ~ Chevy.
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: AndyF]
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03/26/15 11:36 PM
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Same for me, my 4.25 crank was awesome, checked by my engine builder. Came out real close grinded a tad nothing serious
Mikey
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: Stanton]
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03/27/15 02:00 AM
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No problem with mine - which I bought about 5 years ago.
The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: 383man]
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03/27/15 02:09 AM
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I never heard of 440 Source being out of tolerance. Mine was checked and found to be right on. Still running strong after about 300 1/4 mile passes. Back when I bought my rotating assembly , Brandon was taking all kinds of flack from the peanut gallery for selling off shore stuff. As stated above, I couldn't afford Callies 
Last edited by rowin4; 03/27/15 02:10 AM.
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: markz528]
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03/27/15 04:39 AM
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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.
Mine wasn't a 440 Source but was Chinese. Improperly ground so kept eating bearings and snout was over 0.001 inches too small........ 
But...parts quality ultimately falls to the installer. You NEVER run ANY aftermarket internal part without a thorough check, right??
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: Stanton]
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03/27/15 10:12 AM
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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.
Bull$hit. More than one person who builds / built engines for a living has provided details in the past on certain cranks whose finish tolerances were far from ideal (excessive journal taper, inconsistent sizing from one journal to the next).
I know some of the brands seem to have gotten better. My 2nd Eagle crank is surprisingly good (my first one needed the mains cut .010"). The only thing I don't like was that the crank snout where the damper fits was on the small side, so I needed to buy a new SFI damper to make sure the press fit was acceptable. My original SFI damper had already been honed to fit an OEM-sized snout and would have been too loose.
Just because some people don't want to hear that their budget parts might not have been machined as precisely as more expensive & higher quality items doesn't make it a "rumor".
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: BradH]
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03/27/15 01:18 PM
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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.
Bull$hit. More than one person who builds / built engines for a living has provided details in the past on certain cranks whose finish tolerances were far from ideal (excessive journal taper, inconsistent sizing from one journal to the next).
I know some of the brands seem to have gotten better. My 2nd Eagle crank is surprisingly good (my first one needed the mains cut .010"). The only thing I don't like was that the crank snout where the damper fits was on the small side, so I needed to buy a new SFI damper to make sure the press fit was acceptable. My original SFI damper had already been honed to fit an OEM-sized snout and would have been too loose.
Just because some people don't want to hear that their budget parts might not have been machined as precisely as more expensive & higher quality items doesn't make it a "rumor".
there has been many documented cases. Dan we need you  and many of them were 440source
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Re: Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?
[Re: BradH]
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03/27/15 02:54 PM
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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.
Bull$hit. More than one person who builds / built engines for a living has provided details in the past on certain cranks whose finish tolerances were far from ideal (excessive journal taper, inconsistent sizing from one journal to the next).
I know some of the brands seem to have gotten better. My 2nd Eagle crank is surprisingly good (my first one needed the mains cut .010"). The only thing I don't like was that the crank snout where the damper fits was on the small side, so I needed to buy a new SFI damper to make sure the press fit was acceptable. My original SFI damper had already been honed to fit an OEM-sized snout and would have been too loose.
Just because some people don't want to hear that their budget parts might not have been machined as precisely as more expensive & higher quality items doesn't make it a "rumor".
Here we go, The question was about 440 Source and now your saying how your Eagle crank was a piece of crap. Just to let you know I had my Eagle crank checked by a top Engine builder and it was good to go. If my 440 Source crank needed to be turned .010 it would have been sent back. 
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