Has the QC on 440 Source cranks improved?

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I have low deck Molnar 3.91 cranks in stock. If you are East coast,shipping may be a little less. If your West coast, then maybe 440 Source would be closer. Let me know if I can help,otherwise I am sure Brandon can help you out.

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Can you tell me if the 2.20 rod journal of the Molnar crank is cut for a Chevy width rod or a Chrysler width rod?

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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.

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Mine wasn't a 440 Source but was Chinese. Improperly ground so kept eating bearings and snout was over 0.001 inches too small........

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No problem with mine - which I bought about 5 years ago.

The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.

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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.

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Mine wasn't a 440 Source but was Chinese. Improperly ground so kept eating bearings and snout was over 0.001 inches too small........

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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.

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Bull$hit. More than one person who builds / built engines for a living has provided details in the past on certain cranks whose finish tolerances were far from ideal (excessive journal taper, inconsistent sizing from one journal to the next).

I know some of the brands seem to have gotten better. My 2nd Eagle crank is surprisingly good (my first one needed the mains cut .010"). The only thing I don't like was that the crank snout where the damper fits was on the small side, so I needed to buy a new SFI damper to make sure the press fit was acceptable. My original SFI damper had already been honed to fit an OEM-sized snout and would have been too loose.

Just because some people don't want to hear that their budget parts might not have been machined as precisely as more expensive & higher quality items doesn't make it a "rumor".

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there has been many documented cases. Dan we need you and many of them were 440source

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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.

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Bull$hit. More than one person who builds / built engines for a living has provided details in the past on certain cranks whose finish tolerances were far from ideal (excessive journal taper, inconsistent sizing from one journal to the next).

I know some of the brands seem to have gotten better. My 2nd Eagle crank is surprisingly good (my first one needed the mains cut .010"). The only thing I don't like was that the crank snout where the damper fits was on the small side, so I needed to buy a new SFI damper to make sure the press fit was acceptable. My original SFI damper had already been honed to fit an OEM-sized snout and would have been too loose.

Just because some people don't want to hear that their budget parts might not have been machined as precisely as more expensive & higher quality items doesn't make it a "rumor".

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Here we go, The question was about 440 Source and now your saying how your Eagle crank was a piece of crap. Just to let you know I had my Eagle crank checked by a top Engine builder and it was good to go. If my 440 Source crank needed to be turned .010 it would have been sent back.

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Here we go,

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No kidding !! The plain and simple fact is, no matter how good of a product you make, somebody, somewhere will find fault with it.

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Here we go,

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No kidding !! The plain and simple fact is, no matter how good of a product you make, somebody, somewhere will find fault with it.

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Usually it's the people who have never owned or used one...

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I don't think there is enough sword swallowing going on here , this should bring them out ...

When people you TRUST tell you about, and then show you the damaged bearings from an engine that has only 5 dyno pulls on it, you would be a freaking idiot to take a chance to save 200 bucks ...

But I hope for the sake of the budget builder, that can't get their fill of CCJ, that their QC has improved because they are partly responsible for more aftermarket support for the big block Mopar engine.

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Here we go,

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No kidding !! The plain and simple fact is, no matter how good of a product you make, somebody, somewhere will find fault with it.

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Usually it's the people who have never owned or used one...

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How long ago did this happen?

I don't think there is enough sword swallowing going on here , this should bring them out ...

When people you TRUST tell you about, and then show you the damaged bearings from an engine that has only 5 dyno pulls on it, you would be a freaking idiot to take a chance to save 200 bucks ...

But I hope for the sake of the budget builder, that can't get their fill of CCJ, that their QC has improved because they are partly responsible for more aftermarket support for the big block Mopar engine.

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The tales of bad cranks seem to have been rumors perpetrated by people who had no actual first hand knowledge but are just down on products made in China.

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Bull$hit. More than one person who builds / built engines for a living has provided details in the past on certain cranks whose finish tolerances were far from ideal (excessive journal taper, inconsistent sizing from one journal to the next).

I know some of the brands seem to have gotten better. My 2nd Eagle crank is surprisingly good (my first one needed the mains cut .010"). The only thing I don't like was that the crank snout where the damper fits was on the small side, so I needed to buy a new SFI damper to make sure the press fit was acceptable. My original SFI damper had already been honed to fit an OEM-sized snout and would have been too loose.

Just because some people don't want to hear that their budget parts might not have been machined as precisely as more expensive & higher quality items doesn't make it a "rumor".

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Here we go, The question was about 440 Source and now your saying how your Eagle crank was a piece of crap. Just to let you know I had my Eagle crank checked by a top Engine builder and it was good to go. If my 440 Source crank needed to be turned .010 it would have been sent back.

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1. Original poster asked about 440 Source cranks.
2. Stanton replied in regards to Chinese parts categorically, to which I (obviously) disagreed with his comment.
3. I also pointed out the my first Eagle crank (also CHINESE), needed the mains cut down, but the only complaint I have w/ the 2nd Eagle crank (still CHINESE) is that the snout is sized on the small side and I bought a new balancer because I couldn't re-use my original balancer since it had been honed to fit an OEM crank and would be too loose on the smaller-sized Eagle snout.

Nowhere did I call my Eagle crank(s) a "piece of crap", YOU did. If I didn't think it was a reasonable piece to use, I wouldn't have bought a 2nd one. However, I surely knew to expect that it might need some correction work, just as previous posts on the 440 Source cranks also told people to expect.

I didn't pay Callies prices (I got mine for $600 each), and I didn't expect Callies quality, but plenty of people on here seem to think you can honestly get the quality w/o the price from so many budget offshore parts. There's been enough evidence of that being unrealistic over the years that you'd think nobody would even debate the topic.

For the OP, my is to buy the Molnar, even if it costs a bit more than the 440 Source when the cost w/ shipping is factored in.