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r/t or srt challenger for autox #1782445 03/18/15 12:53 AM 03/18/15 12:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	Hey guys, progress is slow on the valiant and with the season starting soon i'm thinking about picking up a challenger instead of rushing to get the car done. I've found a 14 r/t 6spd and a couple 09/10 srt8s in the same price range. Unfortunately both the srts i've found are autos. For autox and club track days am i going to regret the r/t over holding out for a manual srt or even getting an auto srt? Probably only thing i will do to the car is a good set of tires. Need to fix the driver before i worry about the car. Really wish i could swing a new scat pack. They just got a blue shaker in at the dealer next door...

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782446 03/18/15 01:00 AM 03/18/15 01:00 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD B bordin34 super stock
bordin34 super stock B Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 842 Urbana, MD	Miata

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: bordin34] #1782447 03/18/15 01:54 AM 03/18/15 01:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada dangina pro stock
dangina pro stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,491 Lethbridge, AB, Canada	Quote: Miata this. Its cheaper and quicker around the autox coarse

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782448 03/18/15 02:02 AM 03/18/15 02:02 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 797 WA P pro451bee super stock
pro451bee super stock P Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 797 WA	The SRT is more stiffly sprung and has better brakes too. So unless you want to do a lot parts swapping ,$$$, the SRT is the best choice.Much faster too. The Miata may be quick around the cones , but would you want to be seen in one?

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: pro451bee] #1782449 03/18/15 02:15 AM 03/18/15 02:15 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	You can get a Mopar TCM and a Tranzformer controller for that thing and you will not think you need the 6 spd. Also conversion kits out there for wheel mounted paddle shifter from an AMG Benz. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: 72Swinger] #1782450 03/18/15 10:57 AM 03/18/15 10:57 AM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA Dan@Hotchkis super stock
Dan@Hotchkis super stock Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA	Quote: You can get a Mopar TCM and a Tranzformer controller for that thing and you will not think you need the 6 spd. Also conversion kits out there for wheel mounted paddle shifter from an AMG Benz. I like that idea on the paddles! Got a link?

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: 72Swinger] #1782451 03/18/15 01:39 PM 03/18/15 01:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	I thought they came with paddle shifters or is that only the 15s? Guess I never looked. I wasn't a fan of paddles on my outback at the autocross. They would probably be fine on the road course tho.

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782452 03/18/15 03:06 PM 03/18/15 03:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area Mopar Mitch pro stock
Mopar Mitch pro stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area	For pylon autocrossing, you seldom ever want to be shifting gears... too upsetting with the smoothness required, etc.... just keep it in 1st or 2nd (maybe 2-3) through most of the courses, pending your final rear gearing, and the rpm range you have for your engine and the length/speed of the pylon course. For a road course/track (1-2+ miles in length), and wider MPH ranges, shifting is more required.. 2-3-4-3-2-3-4, etc, again, pending your rear gearing and rpm range. Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1782453 03/19/15 12:46 AM 03/19/15 12:46 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: Quote: You can get a Mopar TCM and a Tranzformer controller for that thing and you will not think you need the 6 spd. Also conversion kits out there for wheel mounted paddle shifter from an AMG Benz. I like that idea on the paddles! Got a link? Hey Dan, they have been on SRT's stock since 2011 IIRC correctly and an option on R/T's since late 2012. My wife's 2012 RT does not have them, bummer. Every LX that has the 8spd auto has them including the 3.6 Pentas. The 2010 and older can be converted with a Hurst kit or with adaptation of AMG stuff, sorry no link but search LXForums and many have done it. As far as Autox goes I promise there will be a cone course somewhere that a car with paddles would smoke one without, especially when they are located at 10&2 on the wheel and rotate with the wheel, a shift up or down is a finger flick away. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: 72Swinger] #1782454 03/19/15 01:14 AM 03/19/15 01:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	paddles on a 2.5 cvt subaru outback was not pretty! I think i hit the wipers more than the upshift paddle...lol. The course flowed well and i either ended up bouncing the car off the limiter or bogging in second. Also found out that the traction control turned itself back on if it felt it was needed. Evidently the safety steward was not impressed with the body roll either and told me not to come back with it. I was having fun while it lasted...

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782455 03/19/15 01:22 AM 03/19/15 01:22 AM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,661 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,661 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Talk about body roll. How about a 1979 Dodge D-50 Sport - a little pickup - with that BIG over size, camper looking, canopy. Had fun with it and it was ok. Nobody told me it leaned too much. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: amxautox] #1782456 03/19/15 06:31 PM 03/19/15 06:31 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	The Tranzformer converts the cruise up and down buttons to paddles also. Found the link for the 2010 and older: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread...addle%20shifter Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: 72Swinger] #1782457 03/19/15 07:10 PM 03/19/15 07:10 PM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA Dan@Hotchkis super stock
Dan@Hotchkis super stock Joined: May 2012 Posts: 841 Santa Fe Springs, CA	Quote: The Tranzformer converts the cruise up and down buttons to paddles also. Found the link for the 2010 and older: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread...addle%20shifter Very cool, and good to know!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1782458 03/20/15 01:16 AM 03/20/15 01:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: Quote: The Tranzformer converts the cruise up and down buttons to paddles also. Found the link for the 2010 and older: http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread...addle%20shifter Very cool, and good to know! My car missed having them by like 2 months after its build, so I could've had these: http://vi.vipr.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI...amp;descgauge=1 But instead just have: http://s3.amazonaws.com/photos.ecarlist.com/I9/vd/Xc/Sv/HP/NV/hA/do/UY/03/ZQ_640.jpg Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: 72Swinger] #1782459 03/31/15 11:14 PM 03/31/15 11:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	She came in today, picked it up at lunch. It's going to be a long 500 miles of temptation... 8476849-20150331_192907.jpg (188 downloads)

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782460 03/31/15 11:22 PM 03/31/15 11:22 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,661 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,661 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Congrats. Looks great. Have fun with her. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782461 04/01/15 11:53 AM 04/01/15 11:53 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area Mopar Mitch pro stock
Mopar Mitch pro stock Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,442 NW Chicago suburban area	Congrats! Very cooolll! Mopar Mitch "Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers! Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782462 04/01/15 03:16 PM 04/01/15 03:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	I'd think either would be...not so great for Auto-X. They are very big and heavy...fun sure but if you are trying to win something a smaller car would be better and probably 1/3rd of the cost. AND if you have an auto and it works correctly there's no need to manually shift it. W/ a programmer you can make it do whatever you like. I messed around w/ the shift points and whatnot in my old Magnum R/T... worked great. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1782463 04/01/15 11:55 PM 04/01/15 11:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne B buconine OP enthusiast
buconine OP enthusiast B Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 216 omahell, ne	Not overly concerned about winning. I will run it locally in cam class, I don't think it will fare well in fs. This is more about having fun at the track and strip while i collect parts to finish the valiant. I had decided against getting one til they called and said a b5 stick low option model came in. Love at first sight. ..

Re: r/t or srt challenger for autox [Re: buconine] #1782464 04/02/15 12:28 AM 04/02/15 12:28 AM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward!
MuuMuu101 I got lucky at Woodward! Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 12,375 SoCal	Isn't autocross all about having fun? Sure winning is nice. Sometimes it doesn't matter what you drive, if you're a good driver you'll do well. I just went to my second autocross event this past weekend. I did pretty bad for my first 3 sets (3 runs a piece). I was over aggressive which resulted in me being very squirly and destroying many cones. My last set of runs, I slowed down a bit, kept the car controlled, and knocked a second and a half off of my time. It was fun just improving and trying to beat myself.

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