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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: wyldebill]
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02/17/15 09:46 PM
02/17/15 09:46 PM
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Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel
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Trucks/vans only. Prior to '96 is RH, '96 and later is RE. RH is preferred for retrofits.
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: wyldebill]
#1757000
02/19/15 01:05 AM
02/19/15 01:05 AM
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smyrna,tn
draginmopars
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RH
Rear wheel drive
Hydraulic shifted
RE
Rear wheel drive
Electronic controlled > shifts
Ha-Ha Racin
Havin Fun 101
Howard
68 "Cummins" Satellite
70 W-2 449 "More Door" Dart
70 340 Dart Swinger, 4spd
71 360 Dart Swinger
72 540/ 518 Dart Swinger
73 airwolf 446/a-500 Cuda
73 "Cummins" Crew cab-car hauler
84 446 Dodge Rampage (tube chassis)
92 CTD 11' flat bed
92 CTD club cab
07 Dodge Caliber
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: wyldebill]
#1757001
02/19/15 01:12 AM
02/19/15 01:12 AM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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So what is the the nomenclature of the last rh?
The easy way to spot a RH is the pin count(not the
neutral safety switch plug) but behind the shifter
will be a plug.... you want either a 1 pin or a 3 pin..
the 7 pin is the electrical type that needs the computer..
the 1 pin is just OD and the 3 pin is OD and lock up
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: wyldebill]
#1757004
02/19/15 02:20 PM
02/19/15 02:20 PM
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Romeo MI
MR_P_BODY
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thats kinda what im looking at too. i figured the later od unit would be a better(refined) unit. front half being 727, that part is already proven. i was just tring to get an overdrive and lockup to live behind a bb
The lock up wont take WOT and the OD really shouldnt
do it either but you can roll into it with no problem...
I like it in my Rampage.. I pretty much just keep
it in OD(I dont have lock up)
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: wyldebill]
#1757005
02/19/15 02:39 PM
02/19/15 02:39 PM
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draginmopars
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I did find out the valve bodys are the same So now I can take the next step interesting article> Turn your non lockup 518 into a lockup on the cheap http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forum...p-cheap-318014/ Am wanting the 618 trans cause it has more clutches and straight cut gears. I have a 518 but it is lock up trans, need non lock up > 618, so that I can use a converter I have with anti-balloning plates and better stall I have an extra bell, but would rather use the one I added the shift linkage and kick-down mount 
Ha-Ha Racin
Havin Fun 101
Howard
68 "Cummins" Satellite
70 W-2 449 "More Door" Dart
70 340 Dart Swinger, 4spd
71 360 Dart Swinger
72 540/ 518 Dart Swinger
73 airwolf 446/a-500 Cuda
73 "Cummins" Crew cab-car hauler
84 446 Dodge Rampage (tube chassis)
92 CTD 11' flat bed
92 CTD club cab
07 Dodge Caliber
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: draginmopars]
#1757006
02/19/15 02:43 PM
02/19/15 02:43 PM
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I did find out the valve bodys are the same
So now I can take the next step
interesting article>
Turn your non lockup 518 into a lockup on the cheap
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forum...p-cheap-318014/
Am wanting the 618 trans cause it has more clutches and straight cut gears.
I have a 518 but it is lock up trans,
need non lock up > 618, so that I can use a converter I have with anti-balloning plates and better stall
I have an extra bell, but would rather use the one I added the shift linkage and kick-down mount
I changed my lock up to a non lock up.. just change
the input shaft and the pump... that way I could put
a high stall conv in.. I went with a 5000 stall I had
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1757007
02/19/15 06:09 PM
02/19/15 06:09 PM
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dragnduster
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I did find out the valve bodys are the same
So now I can take the next step
interesting article>
Turn your non lockup 518 into a lockup on the cheap
http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/forum...p-cheap-318014/
Am wanting the 618 trans cause it has more clutches and straight cut gears.
I have a 518 but it is lock up trans,
need non lock up > 618, so that I can use a converter I have with anti-balloning plates and better stall
I have an extra bell, but would rather use the one I added the shift linkage and kick-down mount
I changed my lock up to a non lock up.. just change
the input shaft and the pump... that way I could put
a high stall conv in.. I went with a 5000 stall I had
Hey Mike, I have a late 70s 727 lockup tranny that I took on trade that is freshly rebuilt but I would like to use a non lockup convertor I have. Can I just change the input shaft and pump on it and then use my converter?
Thanks
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: dragnduster]
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02/19/15 06:17 PM
02/19/15 06:17 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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Hey Mike, I have a late 70s 727 lockup tranny that I took on trade that is freshly rebuilt but I would like to use a non lockup convertor I have. Can I just change the input shaft and pump on it and then use my converter? Thanks
Thats all I did... basically I changed the pump
forward(pump and input shaft) I could get it cheaper
that way then buying the parts
EDIT
The pump gears have a different tang on the 727 than
the 518 lock up style... so I just bought the 727
stuff
I see you said NON lock up... I'm not sure on the
tangs on those gears but the 727 stuff does work
Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 02/19/15 06:21 PM.
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
#1757009
02/19/15 06:21 PM
02/19/15 06:21 PM
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dragnduster
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Hey Mike, I have a late 70s 727 lockup tranny that I took on trade that is freshly rebuilt but I would like to use a non lockup convertor I have. Can I just change the input shaft and pump on it and then use my converter?
Thanks
Thats all I did... basically I changed the pump
forward(pump and input shaft) I could get it cheaper
that way then buying the parts
Thanks I will try that with this 727, that will save me getting a core rebuilt for the 440 I am putting in my street car. 
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: draginmopars]
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02/19/15 06:38 PM
02/19/15 06:38 PM
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MR_P_BODY
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Thats all I did... basically I changed the pump
forward(pump and input shaft)
Did you change the valve body?
I have a LU 518
want to change the converter to a 3500 non LU
Was going to pull the Non LU parts from a 618
but then thought to add a bell to it and change the governor weights ?
No... I kept the stock VB... the 618 VB has the diesel
shift timing(LOW rpm).. all I changed was the pump
and input shaft then did the trans go shift kit
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Re: overdrive trans question
[Re: draginmopars]
#1757013
02/19/15 06:52 PM
02/19/15 06:52 PM
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Thats all I did... basically I changed the pump
forward(pump and input shaft)
Did you change the valve body?
I have a LU 518
want to change the converter to a 3500 non LU
Was going to pull the Non LU parts from a 618
but then thought to add a bell to it and change the governor weights ?
No... I kept the stock VB... the 618 VB has the diesel
shift timing(LOW rpm).. all I changed was the pump
and input shaft then did the trans go shift kit
Thats why I'm asking about the valve bodys
Gas vs diesel
Been told the bodys are the same only the governor weights are changed ????
I kept the stock 518 VB... but the Trans go shift
kit does change a spring or two... works nice.. I
had a issue of the governor sticking so it had to
come out for a good cleaning
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