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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Mopar Mitch] #1752604
02/12/15 11:46 PM
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Another thing that needs addressed is valve cover baffling IMO. ANY aftermarket VC's suck in this dept. Been down that road already....


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 72Swinger] #1752605
02/12/15 11:52 PM
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I currently have stock stamped covers. I had stamped aluminum moroso covers with no baffles but getting them to seal started to become a pain.

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752606
02/13/15 12:08 AM
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I currently have stock stamped covers. I had stamped aluminum moroso covers with no baffles but getting them to seal started to become a pain.


Stock are the best for baffling. Its an easy thing to take for granted until you start getting into some cornering G's.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Tomswheels] #1752607
02/13/15 12:15 AM
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I run a Kevco on my 360, stock size but baffled. I'm not sure if they make a big block one, but they are less expensive than Milodon...




And you have had no pressure drop issues? If so that makes me feel pretty good since I also have a Kevko on my 340. Haven't cornered hard enough yet to find out.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: RylisPro] #1752608
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I ordered my pan directly from the manufacturer, it was $380 plus shipping, it was the 31581, had the external oil line....Tim


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: goldduster318] #1752609
02/13/15 03:50 AM
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I run a Kevco on my 360, stock size but baffled. I'm not sure if they make a big block one, but they are less expensive than Milodon...




And you have had no pressure drop issues? If so that makes me feel pretty good since I also have a Kevko on my 340. Haven't cornered hard enough yet to find out.




No pressure drop yet!

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752610
02/13/15 04:17 AM
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Milodon 31580 is the road race pan. Its expensive.




Increased capacity with no compromise of ground clearance and gated to keep oil under pickup, what not to like except price?

Answer: Flimsy flange which is prone to severe dimpling when torqued to recommended 15 pounds,,,unless you are a fan of silicone sealers, which I am not,,,,will likely leak if not torqued to that number. Your results may vary depending on gasket supplier.

A bit of 1/8th steel stock and a drill press has addressed this severe design flaw very well for me. No silicone and no leaks.

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Sxrxrnr] #1752611
02/13/15 02:25 PM
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X2 on the Milodon pan, IF they have it. Usually they are out of stock....I also sell a one piece plastic/silicone oil pan gasket that has a windage tray built in.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1752612
02/13/15 11:23 PM
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For the 360 guys here is the pan you need. They also make it for 6.1 Hemi, no idea if it also fits 5.7 Hemi

http://www.daileyengineering.com/mopar_360.htm

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: PHJ426] #1752613
02/14/15 12:07 AM
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What? No AMC 390 pan and pumps?


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Skeptic] #1752614
02/14/15 03:03 AM
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So are engines-pay me now or pay me MORE later. Here's one in my 68 Barracuda, it's a tight fit in the K, but doesn't hit anything.




I put one in a '68 Barracuda in 2004 w/ a '75 K-frame and had to clearance the K-frame a little. Mine has the 1/2" pick up. The bottom of the pan sits flush with the K-frame, it holds 7 quarts, and has the little trap doors to keep the oil in the pickup area during accel / decel and turns.

Attached picture is the Lokar dipstick fit tested using the 1/2" NPT port on the top of the sump.

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 68cuda440] #1752615
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Sweet pics Micheal I have one of my BB 72 A body K member from underneath

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 72Swinger] #1752616
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Got one with Gen III too. Its a little more snug to the same K member.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 72Swinger] #1752617
02/14/15 12:21 PM
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The picture of the Lokar stick is similar to what I have to do for the 581 pan. The Indy aluminum block has no provision for a stick. They must figure its not neccessary to keep an eye on the oil level. HMMM! I'll drain the oil out after the unit is mounted in the rh pan bung then mark it starting at 5qts for every quart added so there is at least some refference to go by besides rod knock. I'll also mount the k-frame to it while its on the stand to clearance as needed for the pan, frame reinforcements, headers etc.

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 72Swinger] #1752618
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Quote:

Got one with Gen III too. Its a little more snug to the same K member.




Does the 31003 use a specific dipstick? Part number?

Thanks


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: RylisPro] #1752619
02/14/15 06:24 PM
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Im just using an ebay special on mine. Gonna have to make another "stick" though out of stainless tig rod because this one reads just barely.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 68cuda440] #1752620
02/14/15 07:38 PM
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Mine's in a '68 with a '75 K as well. I trimmed the K when I had it out to reinforce it, so I don't have any data on how it would have fit without that. The K stampings don't seem to have a lot of consistency, so YMMV. I used the Schumaker mounts, I've got a crank scraper, but no windage tray.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Skeptic] #1752621
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I just called the guys at kevko, they are building my pan to the exact specs I gave them, this is my first big block, but I have like ten of their small block pans, I recommend them highly. I talked to the exact guy building my pan. I like that.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: cageman] #1752622
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Small update. I tried mocking up the pan today. Looks like I will have to clearance the kframe.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752623
03/10/15 11:25 AM
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Glad to see you are already at it on the pan! When I start working on mine, I have the luxury of the k-frame is not mounted and the engine is on the stand. Will do the clearance checking without diving under the car.


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