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Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross #1752584
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I have a 73 Charger with a 440, HV oil pump, windage tray, and 402 oil pan. I am setting up the car for autocross and am worried about starving the engine for oil. As of right now I have crappy all-seasons, Radial TA, on 15" wheels. In the near future I am upgrading to Direzza ZII on 17" wheels. I have 2.45 rear gears currently so I will never have to shift out of 1st at AutoX.
Do I risk losing oil pressure with my current setup?
Do I risk losing oil pressure with the upgraded wheels and tires.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752585
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yup

oh ya

look on summit web site, and/or that other race parts web site.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: amxautox] #1752586
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Thank You,
Looks like summit has a $100 6qt hemi repro pan.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752587
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You need a wide pan that's baffled not a 6 quart stock style pan. Also get an accumulator


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Jerry] #1752588
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I assume those will interfere with some headers?

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Jerry] #1752589
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Milodon's stock replacement pans have a minimal baffle in them, better than stock but not as pricey as an all out road race pan. How much it helps, I dunno. I usually use that and a windage tray as well as a lifter valley baffle as the extent of my oil control setup, but that is on a smallblock, you don't need the lifter valley baffle on a BB.

An accumulator might be cheap insurance though.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Supercuda] #1752590
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Milodon

That's the name I couldn't think of. Look on their web site to see what they make.

And the other parts web site. Jegs

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: amxautox] #1752591
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Milodon 31580 is the road race pan. Its expensive.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752592
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Yes they are, $600 or more. But worth it rather than blowing a motor.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752593
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For the Milodon 31580 pan you need the 18328 oil pickup about $500 bucks from Summit
Good luck on them being available from Milodon


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: RylisPro] #1752594
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They provide peace of mind, they keep at least a quart trapped at all times. Doubt clearance from headers would be an issue at all. I run a Road Race pan AND an accumulator on my current rendition. Car has REALLY good brakes and REALLY sticky back tires, it corners ok too, at least it used too.....

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: 72Swinger] #1752595
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I completely agree.
I think it is a good thing that more and more people are ordering these road racing parts.
It may make Milodon consider us Mopar fans profitable instead of just the Ford and GM guys.
Supply and demand


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752596
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Quote:

Milodon 31580 is the road race pan. Its expensive.


So are engines-pay me now or pay me MORE later. Here's one in my 68 Barracuda, it's a tight fit in the K, but doesn't hit anything.
It was leaking from one of the welds, Brian @ IMM epoxyied it up. By the time the engine was on the pump it was out of warranty and I didn't have time to get with them to try and get an exchange.

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Skeptic] #1752597
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I have one of those pans plus the 3/8 pickup for it. Was going to use it on the new Indy motor for the car but the Indy came with a revised version of the pan. Its setup for an external pickup now. New pan camping out on the shelf. Any takers? Pm me.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752598
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Quote:

Milodon 31580 is the road race pan. Its expensive.




Yes, but $600 is a lot less than an engine rebuild where I live.

You always could get a weld up kit from an oval track supplier and double up on it for both sides of the sump to add capacity and trap doors. Maybe cost you $100 plus time and labor.

Big thing is to keep oil around the pick up. This is why good pans are expensive. They have internal sumps and gates to trap oil around the pick up in specific directions so that there is always oil at the tube.

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: TC@HP2] #1752599
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Thanks, I decided to buy a Milodon pan before I AutoX it. For now the 944 will have to do.
Has anyone tried to put this pan in a 73+ B-body yet?

Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: bordin34] #1752600
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Quote:

Thanks, I decided to buy a Milodon pan before I AutoX it. For now the 944 will have to do.
Has anyone tried to put this pan in a 73+ B-body yet?




I run the Milodon Road Race Pan on a '68, never needed an accumulator with this set-up. Plenty of time of the road course.


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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Viol8r] #1752601
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I run a Kevco on my 360, stock size but baffled. I'm not sure if they make a big block one, but they are less expensive than Milodon...

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Tomswheels] #1752602
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Kevko can build big block pans. I have several big block pans from them.

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Re: Big Block Oil Pan For Autocross [Re: Tomswheels] #1752603
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Its too bad MaMopar never baffled their pans in the first place, E/SPecially for those cars that were marketed for hi-per usage (RT, TA-AAR, etc); the 440-6 and Hemi cars had baffles for acceleration/deceleration, but that alone doesn't do enough for cornering.... but that pan will help the BB engine live longer.

Get the Milodon pan for your BB. On my SB I've welded f/r/side horizontal plates for baffeling (did that ~40 years ago... best mod I've ever done to the car to save the engine!)... I may someday upgrade to the Milodon pan as it appears to be a hi-quality product worht its expense. I advise other people I meet (w/Mopars) that the 1st thing they need to do is modify or change their oil pan to include baffeles.


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