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Converting your bracket car to E-85, dicuss or links. #175103
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I know there have been several posts on this topic, but having not been here too much lately I'd like to hear whats involved with switching from 110 race gas in a 12:1 bracket motor to E-85. What are the concerns to be addressed? If you'd rather post links to past dicussions that would be alright too. Looking at any and all ways to cut operating costs to MAYBE not have to sell the Dart. $2 a gl vs $8 a gl would be a good start if its doable. Thanks for any input.
Ken.

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Re: Converting your bracket car to E-85, dicuss or links. [Re: StrokerPost] #175104
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Ken... no one does that... just kiddin
If you have enough fuel pump to pump 30% more fuel
then the only factor would be the carb. I had mine
re done by Quick Fuels, this is a 1050 dom and they
were real close for everything but I did jet up 3
or 4 jets in it, idles great. There is www.e85forum.com
they have alot of good info. I've been running it most of
this past season and love the price difference from
112 octane to the E-85. I have some minor tuning
to complete this coming season with timing, I'm
thinking about 5* more

Re: Converting your bracket car to E-85, dicuss or links. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #175105
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Hey Mike, how ya been? Thanks for the link, I'll have a look around over there. I did finally find a couple of older posts while searching here, but if this is something I decide to do I'll probably be buggin ya later. I see Jim (440jim) is pretty forthcoming with info as well, so I may bug him some too. Thanks again buddy.

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Jim actually did his carb but that was a 950 I believe
and now he's thinking a 1050 but I'm sure he/we can
help you out. It sure was a cost savings and it runs
much cooler
EDIT
here is a pic of mine when I got it back... preeetty
guess it didnt load... oh well

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Re: Converting your bracket car to E-85, dicuss or links. [Re: MR_P_BODY] #175107
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The current "Drag Racing Action" magazine has a couple articles on running E-85.

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Its a pity the E-85 isn't more rreadily available. Imagine the wicked street motors you could do sith it. I only know of 1 station near me that carries it.

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Its a pity the E-85 isn't more rreadily available. Imagine the wicked street motors you could do sith it. I only know of 1 station near me that carries it.




thats 1 more than we have around here.

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Its a pity the E-85 isn't more rreadily available. Imagine the wicked street motors you could do sith it. I only know of 1 station near me that carries it.




In my area there is 2 stations in 4 miles.... much
better than trying to find race fuel(1 place 19 miles away)
Meijers around here carries it

Re: Converting your bracket car to E-85, dicuss or links. [Re: StrokerPost] #175111
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I'm also thinking of going E-85 but with it being mixed at the stations, is there any problem with getting a consistant mixture each time you buy? Different stations mix the same?

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I'm also thinking of going E-85 but with it being mixed at the stations, is there any problem with getting a consistant mixture each time you buy? Different stations mix the same?




That can be a issue up this way, they make winter
E-85 which can be as low as E-70 which is more
gas added to the E-85 for winter starting. But if
you buy it in mid summer and store it in 55 gal steel
drums its not a problem. What I do in the spring
months is ask for the drop sheets and calculate
the %. The way they do the stations is drop X amount
of alky and then drop X amount of gas in the same tank
and they show that on the drop sheets. This past
summer I seen a difference of 1% at Meijers and that
was 85% to 86%

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But if you buy it in mid summer and store it in 55 gal steel drums its not a problem. What I do in the spring
months is ask for the drop sheets and calculate the %


That is what I recommend for racing and higher compression ratios. I am running 13.5 CR with a long duration cam (279º/287º) and aluminum heads. In 2008 my drum was filled with 83%

http://www.e85forum.com/
http://members.tccoa.com/392bird/carbtech.htm
http://e85prices.com
http://www.e85fuel.com/index.php
http://www.e85carbs.com/

MrPbody's Dominator looks like what I need for my 511 CID...


1993 Daytona, 5.50 at 130mph (1/8) 1.19 sixty ft (PG). Link to 572 B1 - Part 1
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I think DTHemi changed the cuda over to E85.




He did... with some VERY good numbers and serious
compression.
My compression is 14.1:1 and he was a failr bit higher

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How much more fuel are ya'll using compared to gasoline?


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How much more fuel are ya'll using compared to gasoline?




About 20%-30% more to equal the same pass as race fuel

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How much more fuel are ya'll using compared to gasoline?


I average 30% more fuel than race gasoline.


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thanks for links Jim, there seems to be one station pretty close. I will have to go check it out. I may have to convert my carb or have it done.

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According to a article in the latest Drag racing action mag there is a tester offered by Quick Fuel that will test the Ethanol content of your fuel, might be somthing to look into and it look's to be a decent article,,,guess I need to sit down and do some reading. now I need to try and find a station around these part's that sell's it.


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According to a article in the latest Drag racing action mag there is a tester offered by Quick Fuel that will test the Ethanol content of your fuel, might be somthing to look into and it look's to be a decent article,,,guess I need to sit down and do some reading. now I need to try and find a station around these part's that sell's it.




go the the e85 forum there will be a link that will show stations in your area.

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According to a article in the latest Drag racing action mag there is a tester offered by Quick Fuel that will test the Ethanol content of your fuel, might be somthing to look into and it look's to be a decent article,,,guess I need to sit down and do some reading. now I need to try and find a station around these part's that sell's it.




Bill do you have any info or P/N on that tester
or the article that you can post. I might have to see
if I can get that mag

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