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LA 318 Valvetrain Question #1734495
01/19/15 08:51 PM
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So I just had my LA318 rebuilt and I put it back in the truck (89 Dodge D-150), pulled the passenger side valve cover off because I was going to prime the oil pump and watch to see oil flowing up to the heads. But before I took the drivers side valve cover off I noticed one of the rocker arms it not lined up right with the valve stem. Anyone know what the deal is? Should I try to reassemble the valve assembly? The machine shop I used is like a 45min drive away so I would like to just fix it if it's not a big deal.

I took the other cover off and the other side has one that's off too.

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Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734496
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If I'm thinking correctly the rockers should be offset in pairs so take a look at the two rockers and see if switching them would position the right. Next you should contact the machine shop and make sure your not going to void any warranty you have on there work. I guessing if they broke it in for you they have already damaged the rocker and valve tips.

My thoughts only I'm by no means an expert.


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Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: OldMoparMan] #1734497
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I was priming the oil pump in preparation for firing it up for the first time.

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Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734498
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https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...amp;Search=true

If you look in that thread, there is a pic showing the layout of the rockers...something sure is not looking right on your's, and if an engine shop put it together, might be a little concerned how they did everything else.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734499
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The rockers are stamped LH/RH, you have two LHs together in that picture.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: OzHemi] #1734500
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I see the machine show didn't pay attention to the LT/RT markings on the rockers and just threw them on randomly.. I'll have to call the shop and see how they are going to take care of this.

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I see that now. Bastards...

I could put strychnine in the guacamole...

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Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734502
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I see that now. Bastards...

I could put strychnine in the guacamole...





I could go for some guac now that you mention it.. (no poison in mine though)


Hopefully you can get it sorted out and glad you caught it when you did. As I said though..would make me a little worried about the other work they did as well.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734503
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By the way, where is the missing RH rocker then?


It is easy enough to take the rocker shafts off and re-arrange them at least.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: OzHemi] #1734504
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For sure. I've got two rights on the other side. They didn't keep track of what went where at all..

But ya, it's not a big deal to fix it, but I'm going to have to contact the shop first. They're going to tell me they'll fix it if I bring the motor back but I've already put it in I don't want to do that. So I'll have to just fix it myself but I'll send them a bill for the labor. And when they don't pay it I'll take em to small claims.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734505
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What a hassle..

If you don't have any extra rockers to make up the missing correct sided ones, at least getting some old ones is pretty easy, most people (myself included ) seem to end up with some laying around.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: OzHemi] #1734506
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None are missing, they're just in the wrong order. But ya, I pay $1400 for a rebuild I shouldn't have to deal with this [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean].

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: OzHemi] #1734507
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this way is the correct way..good you found it.

did they get the notch on shaft correct end on the head left to right?

should be to rear on pass side and to front on driver side of engine for correct oiling to rockers.


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Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1734508
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I had taken the rockers and everything off and had all the parts in a beer box with everything labeled and separated so they knew what came off were so they could reassemble them the same way and this is what I get. They did the same thing with all the bolts I gave them. They were all in labeled bags and they give back what they didn't use in a pile. If they didn't use the bolt or even clean it why did they need to take it out of the bag??

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Quote:

this way is the correct way..good you found it.

did they get the notch on shaft correct end on the head left to right?

should be to rear on pass side and to front on driver side of engine for correct oiling to rockers.






Let me check.

Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1734510
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Nope, they've got the shafts backwards too!

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Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: Instigate] #1734511
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it would be as important as rockers in correct order.

I would have to see someone in person for that kind of $ with this kinda problems.

must be a chebby shop doing side work on mopars. I do better shadetree hickabilly JY builds for way less $

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Nope, they've got the rods backwards too!




now lets double check to make sure I got that right on the shafts front/back left/right.


Re: LA 318 Valvetrain Question [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1734513
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And like I mentioned...wonder what else they might have not got right while assembling it.

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And like I mentioned...wonder what else they might have not got right while assembling it.




I did not want to say it but I could not sleep at night ifin was mine.

?s like did they really put what I paid for in there? or what else did the chebby guys goof?

and why am I fixing it after I just happen to notice it was wrong.

It would have to be in person before I corrected it.

would most likely be one of those IN PERSON punch in the nose/no warranty deals for me for 1400$

cut the loss and roll the dice as is.





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