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T/A Steering box #1662392
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Do ALL AAR's and T/A Challengers have a quick ratio steering box that has T/A stamped on it? Your help is very valuable!

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: RACERLEX] #1662393
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Re: T/A Steering box [Re: RACERLEX] #1662394
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Question #2: Do all AAR's and T/A's have T/A stamped on the steering box?

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: RACERLEX] #1662395
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Question #2: Do all AAR's and T/A's have T/A stamped on the steering box?




No..only the Fast Ratio box does...otherwise it is a standard power steering or manual steering box.


Tony

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Re: T/A Steering box [Re: RACERLEX] #1662396
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If an AAR or TA are optioned for power steering the only box they got was a fast ratio box marked TA.

Some 71 ebodies were equipped with the same TA box.


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Re: T/A Steering box [Re: moparo] #1662397
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Actually no OEM fast ratio PS box exists. The T/A box just had the stops moved. Longer pitman sped up the ratio.

Rick

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #1662398
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does that mean that adding the fast ratio pitman arm will essentially give the standard box fast ratio?


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Re: T/A Steering box [Re: Rick_Ehrenberg] #1662399
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The T/A box just had the stops moved.




What's special about the case that it needed to have the T/A cast into it? Are the stops cast into the case?

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: KARLN] #1662400
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does that mean that adding the fast ratio pitman arm will essentially give the standard box fast ratio?




Yep.

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: autoxcuda] #1662401
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So....essentially a T/A car COULD have a power steering box that does NOT have T/A written on it? Very important to know today~

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: autoxcuda] #1662402
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does that mean that adding the fast ratio pitman arm will essentially give the standard box fast ratio?




Yep.




No.

The factory fast ratio arm will not fit on a standard box. Sector shaft diameter, and splines are different.
You will need to go aftermarket to Firm Feel or Hotchkis (there are others) for a longer arm for the standard, small sector shaft box.

Robert


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Re: T/A Steering box [Re: RACERLEX] #1662403
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T/As could have manual steering, power steering, or quick-ratio power steering. Not all P/S cars got the quick ratio option.

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: floyd] #1662404
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Still fishing for the right answer.

Can a T/A car come with a steering box that does NOT have T/A stamped on it?

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: RACERLEX] #1662405
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What I was trying to say is the "TA" box has the quick ratio option. T/As with the standard power steering option got a regular power steering box (without the raised "TA")

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: rftroy] #1662406
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does that mean that adding the fast ratio pitman arm will essentially give the standard box fast ratio?




Yep.




No.

The factory fast ratio arm will not fit on a standard box. Sector shaft diameter, and splines are different.
You will need to go aftermarket to Firm Feel or Hotchkis (there are others) for a longer arm for the standard, small sector shaft box.

Robert






I meant from what is available today aftermarket. You can add FF or PST long pitman in large or small spline diameter without master splines to make your steering quick ratio. That is what the original poster has done.

But yes originally the clocking was different on the master splines.

But I thought the T/A boxes were still small 1972 and down B/E/A body diameter???

Are the T/A boxes the larger 60's and up C-body diameter that the B/E/A bodies switched to in 1973?

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: floyd] #1662407
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What I was trying to say is the "TA" box has the quick ratio option. T/As with the standard power steering option got a regular power steering box (without the raised "TA")




So to clarify more, there were three different steering possibilities on a 70 T/A and 70 AAR ?

Re: T/A Steering box [Re: autoxcuda] #1662408
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My AAR came with a standard manual steering box ..........


Tony

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But I thought the T/A boxes were still small 1972 and down B/E/A body diameter???

Are the T/A boxes the larger 60's and up C-body diameter that the B/E/A bodies switched to in 1973?




Yes. Steering gear shaft in T/A box is same large diameter as full size Dodge and Chrysler, but it is a different shaft unique to T/A box.
The T/A steering box is not just a standard steering chuck with stops put in, it is heavier duty.

Robert


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70 440 6 pack Roadrunner 4-speed 3.54, Plum Crazy;
68 Formula S conv 383 4-speed 3.23, Electric Blue;
69 Barracuda conv Slant 6 OD4 2.94, 71 B5 Blue;
78 Lil' Red Truck, Red;
70 Challenger S/E. 505 6 pack, Passon 5-speed, 3.55, B7 Blue






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