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Meh, all depends on the rules. The rules are typically just made to balance things and keep butts in the stands. IOW, it's all bunk and rules lawyering. But that's the way racing is. It's all about the rules, then the engineering begins from there. I think that's weak, but I'm not sponsoring races.

For X cubic inches, a turbo hemi will win in the 1/4, period. Very slightly behind that would be a hemi with a screw; the screw will probably own in the 1/8. The other things are kept competitive by weight breaks and other handicaps; ie rules lawyering. That's just what it is, you want to race, you play by their rules.

Monte is just doing what it takes to win. More power to him. People shouldn't get butt-hurt about the racer, they should get after the rules makers. S/F.....Ken M

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Your talking to a person who doesnt even race let along
know anything about what the rules might say.. he just
likes to stir the pot

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Monte.....good luck, all I can say when I read your posts on here.....you are a glutton for punishment....LMAO !

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You should know by now........haters don't bother me man.......LOL.........they hatin on me they just giving somebody else a break. They are just faceless words typed on a screen.......don't mean nothing to me..........LOL!!!

I also don't do anything for anyone elses approval. I do things to reach MY goals and what I want to accomplish. If others don't share that view.......that's cool, doesn't bother me

Monte

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My opinion is I think it is cool that you are keeping the GTX body stlye for a car that will be very fast if you run it in the 1/4 and will surely be giving up a lot in aero drag at the far end. Not as much in the 1/8 but at 150 MPH it is still significant. That thing is no where near "egg shaped" like the modern cars.

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That is the puzzling part....if you are going to every extent to be as fast as possible, why use a 69 Plymouth body skin ?? And trying/expecting to make money at racing ???

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I can slap some Mopar stickers on the valve covers and tell everyone they are old "Eicke Pro-Stock heads"...........how does everybody feel about that..........LOL!!!

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That was a very dark time in the Mopar pro stock world, better it would just be forgotten. You know, let sleeping dogs lie...

Yes it was a very dark time...

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I can slap some Mopar stickers on the valve covers and tell everyone they are old "Eicke Pro-Stock heads"...........how does everybody feel about that..........LOL!!!

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That was a very dark time in the Mopar pro stock world, better it would just be forgotten. You know, let sleeping dogs lie...

Yes it was a very dark time...

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My thoughts on a Predator motor.........If they made the head in a 4.840 or 5.0 bore space, I would own one. On a 4.800 bore space.......I will pass.

....but those same guys say a Predator is not a real Mopar head because it doesn't LOOK like a Mopar head.


Monte

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My thoughts on a Predator motor.........If they made the head in a 4.840 or 5.0 bore space, I would own one. On a 4.800 bore space.......I will pass.

....but those same guys say a Predator is not a real Mopar head because it doesn't LOOK like a Mopar head.


Monte

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Not trying to start a war, just expressing my opinions.....

It gets beat to death how Mopar guys won't embrace new stuff, YET the same guys that rant about this will NOT even buy the current offerings.......but they still rant about others not buying them....

And in all the threads where it is repeated ad nauseam about all these Mopar guys that bash the Predator over what it LOOKS like...I have Never seen one of those guys post in these threads....yet it gets repeated over and over.....Just because One or Two guys said they didn't like what it LOOKS like a few years ago, it's taken on a life of it's own......

Then the guys who think they are above everyone one else and/or their minions....take that and run with it and start in with mocking all Mopar guys with the purple shaft cam, 906 head cracks....

And the real irony, is that the deciding factor here seems to be having the use of a FREE EFI Nitrous Engine that he has experience tuning....so anything else is out of the question anyway.......it's not as if kb made a 4.84 Block, and Indy whipped up some 4.84 Predators he would be going that route anyway, because they wouldn't be Free....

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and what exactly do YOU have to run, besides your mouth/keyboard?

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I have a feeling this will be a game changer for the way people do fast mopars. Can'twait to ssee the finished product.... or even the current state

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Looks like your "feeling" was wrong....unfortunately

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Not really. I was thinking more along the lines of chassis work. I don't care what powers it, I leave that to guys like you

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You really think he is going to have some "game changing" chassis mods that will change "the way people do fast Mopars" ??

Sounds to me like he is using one of the old/spare Chevy engines from that Buick and copying that recipe.

Since he knows what that engine/EFI/Nitrous combo needs/wants/runs I guess it's the cheapest and easiest way to go real fast.

Me personally, I would be more impressed/interested if he got the old combo to run 7.70/4.80 like he thought he could.

I am sure glad that Mopar, the Ramchargers, Landy etc. didn't take the already proven/easiest/cheapest way.

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Neighbor bought a 5.3 LS for $100.00 today.

We pulled it apart and it looked brand new inside.

A Chinese turbo and he should be good for 1000 HP.

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Them Chevy guys on YB say they do it all the time.They put one in a fox body mustang and run low 8's high 7's with a $2000.00 race car.

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This is 1/8th mile, no rules racing. The aero loss in the 1/8th is a non factor. Also how light would YOU think a 69 B-body would be. My guess is not very and I will hope that most others feel the same way.......Plus, the number ONE reason I am using the GTX, is because I HAVE the car, it has a 25.2 spec moly chassis under it and is 95% complete. I have every part to make it a complete roller. I don't have a motor, but that problem is solved, so we can be up and racing in a few months, not a year or more from now. Grudge racing is hot right now, so the sooner you get in, the better chance you have.

My thoughts on a Predator motor.........If they made the head in a 4.840 or 5.0 bore space, I would own one. On a 4.800 bore space.......I will pass. The small bore that you are limited to just kills a good head. The greatest head in the world won't breathe if the hole underneath pulling on it is too small.

I can slap some Mopar stickers on the valve covers and tell everyone they are old "Eicke Pro-Stock heads"...........how does everybody feel about that..........LOL!!!

See that is the thing about SOME of the "fickle" Mopar guys. When our Pro-stockers were running the GM type Eicke head on a GM type block, they were all cool with THAT, but those same guys say a Predator is not a real Mopar head because it doesn't LOOK like a Mopar head.

And yes, the motor that will be in the car is GM based, but it does NOT have a single GM part on it. It is an all alum aftermarket race engine, that kinda sorta looks like a Chevy, although no heads even resembling that ever left a GM factory............Just like no parts remotely resembling our(Mopar) current Pro-Stock heads and blocks did either. Oh but wait........the wires go in the covers, that makes it OK..........LOL!!!

And Ray, I would also MUCH RATHER have Mopar power, just don't know where to get what I need. It's easy for these guys to tell me I need a HEMI with twins, or a HEMI with a screw, but they ain't the ones that have to pay for it. And if somebody SHOWS me a Mopar wedge, that inch for inch, will outpower this motor I have and swallow the same amount of spray and LIVE.......I will buy one. Unfortunately on that fact, I know my money is safe.

Monte

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