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Re: Attn Steff [Re: STEFF] #1652801
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Thanx Monte for the update. What ever became of the B1TS motor? Will that play any part in the new mill?




Last I heard Streetking had the b1ts heads on his car. But I saw that motor for sale last year.


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Re: Attn Steff [Re: 1967dartgt] #1652802
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those were early PSO heads on streetkings car

Casey

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those were early PSO heads on streetkings car

Casey


No on TS and no again on the PSO. Unfortunately the B1-TS headed motor will NOT be in the car when it first comes out. I still have those heads, they are at Buck Racing right now getting some work. The original TS short block was a small cube, very low deck deal, so lots has to be done to that block to make it useable for what I need now and will need an entire rotating assy as well. Plans STILL call for completing that motor and having it in the car, just not right now.

The heads on Street Kings motor were NOT TS or PSO heads. They are B-1 MC heads that once resided on MY 446" motor. I sold those heads to an individual to put on his motor and then Street King bought that motor. They had a LOT of work done to them and the floors were raised quite a bit, but again, they were NOT PSO castings. I looked at the motor last year with thoughts of buying it, but just couldn't pull the trigger on it at the time, so I know the heads were indeed my old heads.

We have a new 600" fuel injected motor with 4 stages of nitrous sitting in the floor and ready to go, that makes just shy of 1200hp in nitrous motor trim. So it may not be what "purists" want to see in the car.......but you use what you have and is proven to be fast.

Now before the complaining starts........anybody who knows where a 600" Mopar wedge is, that will make 1200hp in nitrous ready trim and swallow about 1000hp worth of nitrous and stay in one piece........feel free to point me in the direction of that motor and I will also supply you with my paypal for you to deposit the 40-50k it will require to obtain said "bigfoot" motor. I call that motor "bigfoot" because many claim it exists, yet nobody has seen it or seem to know where it is..........LOL!!!

Monte

Re: Attn Steff [Re: Airwoofer] #1652804
07/30/14 04:06 PM
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Where you getting the chassis worked on? I want to see what it would take to get a sway bar in mine short of carrying it to Mooresville.

Edit: That would be Mooresville, NC where Todd Bevis, who built my Demon, works. He is also having chassis seminars. The next one is Aug 8th in Philly.

http://chassisdynamics.net/?page_id=53

I want to see one of these get done here in the southeast. Anyone else interested?




Chris Terry will be doing the work. Same guy who built Chad's Buick...........Now I built the entire chassis in the GTX myself, when myself and a friend had a chassis shop. But I got out of the chassis business and am not set up to do that type work now, plus, I also just don't want to. Got burned out on chassis work. So will let Chris do it.

Monte

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those were early PSO heads on streetkings car

Casey


No on TS and no again on the PSO. Unfortunately the B1-TS headed motor will NOT be in the car when it first comes out. I still have those heads, they are at Buck Racing right now getting some work. The original TS short block was a small cube, very low deck deal, so lots has to be done to that block to make it useable for what I need now and will need an entire rotating assy as well. Plans STILL call for completing that motor and having it in the car, just not right now.

The heads on Street Kings motor were NOT TS or PSO heads. They are B-1 MC heads that once resided on MY 446" motor. I sold those heads to an individual to put on his motor and then Street King bought that motor. They had a LOT of work done to them and the floors were raised quite a bit, but again, they were NOT PSO castings. I looked at the motor last year with thoughts of buying it, but just couldn't pull the trigger on it at the time, so I know the heads were indeed my old heads.

We have a new 600" fuel injected motor with 4 stages of nitrous sitting in the floor and ready to go, that makes just shy of 1200hp in nitrous motor trim. So it may not be what "purists" want to see in the car.......but you use what you have and is proven to be fast.

Now before the complaining starts........anybody who knows where a 600" Mopar wedge is, that will make 1200hp in nitrous ready trim and swallow about 1000hp worth of nitrous and stay in one piece........feel free to point me in the direction of that motor and I will also supply you with my paypal for you to deposit the 40-50k it will require to obtain said "bigfoot" motor. I call that motor "bigfoot" because many claim it exists, yet nobody has seen it or seem to know where it is..........LOL!!!

Monte




Monte,just because in Racing you have to sometimes stray from the Mopar engine,that does not mean you are no longer a Mopar man!
Its called do what ever it takes to win,and I think everyone understands that.

PS I can't wait to see you get your car running...well to be more Honest I can't wait to see you strap on all of that Safety gear and climb in that Hot car when the Temp.is hoving around 98-100 degrees and the heat index 115+ and lets not forget about the 140+ degree track temp.. Don't ask me why,but for some reason at least down here in the South its just Hotter.You do still remember who give me a Hard time about my Safety gear don't you?


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Re: Attn Steff [Re: SpareParts] #1652806
07/30/14 05:03 PM
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I have a feeling this will be a game changer for the way people do fast mopars. Can'twait to ssee the finished product.... or even the current state




Looks like your "feeling" was wrong....unfortunately

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07/30/14 05:24 PM
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those were early PSO heads on streetkings car

Casey


No on TS and no again on the PSO. Unfortunately the B1-TS headed motor will NOT be in the car when it first comes out. I still have those heads, they are at Buck Racing right now getting some work. The original TS short block was a small cube, very low deck deal, so lots has to be done to that block to make it useable for what I need now and will need an entire rotating assy as well. Plans STILL call for completing that motor and having it in the car, just not right now.

The heads on Street Kings motor were NOT TS or PSO heads. They are B-1 MC heads that once resided on MY 446" motor. I sold those heads to an individual to put on his motor and then Street King bought that motor. They had a LOT of work done to them and the floors were raised quite a bit, but again, they were NOT PSO castings. I looked at the motor last year with thoughts of buying it, but just couldn't pull the trigger on it at the time, so I know the heads were indeed my old heads.

We have a new 600" fuel injected motor with 4 stages of nitrous sitting in the floor and ready to go, that makes just shy of 1200hp in nitrous motor trim. So it may not be what "purists" want to see in the car.......but you use what you have and is proven to be fast.

Now before the complaining starts........anybody who knows where a 600" Mopar wedge is, that will make 1200hp in nitrous ready trim and swallow about 1000hp worth of nitrous and stay in one piece........feel free to point me in the direction of that motor and I will also supply you with my paypal for you to deposit the 40-50k it will require to obtain said "bigfoot" motor. I call that motor "bigfoot" because many claim it exists, yet nobody has seen it or seem to know where it is..........LOL!!!

Monte




Monte,just because in Racing you have to sometimes stray from the Mopar engine,that does not mean you are no longer a Mopar man!
Its called do what ever it takes to win,and I think everyone understands that.

PS I can't wait to see you get your car running...well to be more Honest I can't wait to see you strap on all of that Safety gear and climb in that Hot car when the Temp.is hoving around 98-100 degrees and the heat index 115+ and lets not forget about the 140+ degree track temp.. Don't ask me why,but for some reason at least down here in the South its just Hotter.You do still remember who give me a Hard time about my Safety gear don't you?




Well I stand corrected

Either way I cant wait until you get that thing running.

,Casey

Re: Attn Steff [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #1652808
07/30/14 06:20 PM
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I hope you can get it out this winter Monte.. curious
to what it runs.. best of luck with it

Re: Attn Steff [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1652809
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Monte, why does it have to a wedge?


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Re: Attn Steff [Re: Hemi_Joel] #1652810
07/30/14 07:32 PM
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Monte.....good luck, all I can say when I read your posts on here.....you are a glutton for punishment....LMAO !


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I have a feeling this will be a game changer for the way people do fast mopars. Can'twait to ssee the finished product.... or even the current state




Looks like your "feeling" was wrong....unfortunately



Not really. I was thinking more along the lines of chassis work. I don't care what powers it, I leave that to guys like you

Re: Attn Steff [Re: SpareParts] #1652812
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It will be interesting to see how it works out for you. Good luck with it.

Re: Attn Steff [Re: SpareParts] #1652813
07/30/14 08:34 PM
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Now before the complaining starts........anybody who knows where a 600" Mopar wedge is, that will make 1200hp in nitrous ready trim and swallow about 1000hp worth of nitrous and stay in one piece........feel free to point me in the direction of that motor and I will also supply you with my paypal for you to deposit the 40-50k it will require to obtain said "bigfoot" motor. I call that motor "bigfoot" because many claim it exists, yet nobody has seen it or seem to know where it is..........LOL!!!

Perhaps I'm wrong but, other than the 700+ CI stuff making 1200 in NOS trim, I don't think it's possible. I know lot's of people like to tout HP numbers like that, but when the rubber meets the road, it doesn't pan out with something that is able to take 500 HP of NOS, much less a 1000 HP. Good luck with your quest! These are the posts that are interesting to me.

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Cummins?

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Cummins?





It might take the 1000HP NOS, but it would never make that much N/A HP or anything close.

Re: Attn Steff [Re: camastomcat] #1652816
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Cummins?





It might take the 1000HP NOS, but it would never make that much N/A HP or anything close.



It would never weigh 2600 lbs race ready with a Cummins

Glad to see it come out of hibernation! Good luck with it


Jim

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I will be glad to see it out again. I saw it running at Lassiter Mountain Dragway back in the mid 90's running in the heads up street car class. I think it ran some 5.60's.


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Now before the complaining starts........anybody who knows where a 600" Mopar wedge is, that will make 1200hp in nitrous ready trim and swallow about 1000hp worth of nitrous and stay in one piece........feel free to point me in the direction of that motor and I will also supply you with my paypal for you to deposit the 40-50k it will require to obtain said "bigfoot" motor. I call that motor "bigfoot" because many claim it exists, yet nobody has seen it or seem to know where it is..........LOL!!!

Perhaps I'm wrong but, other than the 700+ CI stuff making 1200 in NOS trim, I don't think it's possible. I know lot's of people like to tout HP numbers like that, but when the rubber meets the road, it doesn't pan out with something that is able to take 500 HP of NOS, much less a 1000 HP. Good luck with your quest! These are the posts that are interesting to me.




While I appreciate what Monte has done and all the knowledge he shares if it all boils down to you can't do that with a Mopar there is a reason for that. It's because no one wants to put forth the effort, time or money to do it. With the plethoria of BBC and SBF stuff out there there isn't any reason for the aftermarket to support the Mopar stuff. Blame who you want but it's simple economics.

To each their own and everyone has their goals but either way if I have to have a BBC, a Turbo 400 and a 9" Ford to win races I'll find another way to do it or another field to play in because my pockets aren't that deep and I just don't care to run the same stuff everyone else has.

I'm not knocking you Monte, you have accomplished a lot, with the Mopar stuff as well and showed a lot of us just what it is capable of of. I just wish you or someone would continue to develop that. The reason "Bigfoot" doesn't exist is because once guys like you reach a certain level you see what the Chevy and Ford boys are doing and what they have to work with and you just give up. If you can't beat them, join them.

Best of luck to you, it's your life but I understand how others can get aggravated with the Chevy this, Ford that posts.


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Re: Attn Steff [Re: SpareParts] #1652819
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I have a feeling this will be a game changer for the way people do fast mopars. Can'twait to ssee the finished product.... or even the current state




Looks like your "feeling" was wrong....unfortunately



Not really. I was thinking more along the lines of chassis work. I don't care what powers it, I leave that to guys like you




You really think he is going to have some "game changing" chassis mods that will change "the way people do fast Mopars" ??

Sounds to me like he is using one of the old/spare Chevy engines from that Buick and copying that recipe.

Since he knows what that engine/EFI/Nitrous combo needs/wants/runs I guess it's the cheapest and easiest way to go real fast.

Me personally, I would be more impressed/interested if he got the old combo to run 7.70/4.80 like he thought he could.

I am sure glad that Mopar, the Ramchargers, Landy etc. didn't take the already proven/easiest/cheapest way.

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There are maybe thousands if not close to it BBC NOS engines making 1200hp & using a 1,000 hp + NOS. The Pro-Mod cars and now in the Top/Sportsman & Top/Dragster class's.A small Big Chief/Big Duke head 632 cu in BBC make an easy 1200 hp & get sprayed 1,000hp of NOS regular in Grudge Race cars!


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