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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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06/18/14 06:18 PM
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RapidRobert
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What Ron said, are you having a problem now or are you wanting to change something/spend some money (the story of my life). Or are looking for more power. I've considered the "P" III also
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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06/18/14 08:29 PM
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I have been thinking about getting a msd 6 plus box for the fury is this a lot better then the orange or chrome box?
The mopar stock electronic ignition is fine for mild performance. I use it on both my muscle cars.
It's when you build a high compression race engine is when you need the MSD, not for a street/strip car. IMO
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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06/18/14 11:42 PM
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I have been thinking about getting a msd 6 plus box for the fury is this a lot better then the orange or chrome box?
Points and condenser would be better than an orange box. 
YMMV
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: JohnRR]
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06/19/14 10:01 AM
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I like the MSD myself. Where I noticed the biggest difference on mine was cold weather. Below 40 mine would foul a plug on start-up with an orange box and never pick it back up. With an MSD it started clean at -7.
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: slantzilla]
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06/19/14 10:54 AM
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I like the MSD myself. Where I noticed the biggest difference on mine was cold weather. Below 40 mine would foul a plug on start-up with an orange box and never pick it back up. With an MSD it started clean at -7.
This reminds of this day, the day of the freezer bowl. My 73 challenger with a 340 700 double pumper and stock mopar ignition was the only car that started on my street this day. It was a rusty, loud header equipped junker that sat out on the street.
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: mikemee1331]
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06/20/14 10:25 AM
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Consider how you will be using the car. For a "Daily Driver" the stock mopar electronic ignition is best only because most part stores have all you will need in stock in a pinch. IMO. Most of the other better options don't give you an " OUT" if you should have issues on the drive to or from home. It wouldn't make sense to have a second replacement unit in your trunk and have to change it roadside. I don't know, maybe have an old points and condenser unit handy? Not me but it IS a doable option.  Copper
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: Copper Dart]
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06/20/14 11:38 PM
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I have always relied on MSD 6AL boxes because I race a stick car and needed the rev limiter. I will go with the new Firecore50 ignition box if my MSD ever fails. I always wondered why people would run an ignition in their car that is so prone to failure that they'd never take a trip unless they had a spare box and a ballast resistor in the glove box  Personally I would go Firecore50 if I were starting from scratch Gus 
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: bigblockbryan]
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06/21/14 10:03 PM
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Petronix 3 is a really good unit. It looks like factory built in rev limiter works great. Got it on my 416. And almost forgot you can do away with the ballast resistor.
Last edited by hokies1; 06/21/14 10:06 PM.
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Re: msd vs mopar ecu
[Re: hokies1]
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06/22/14 12:08 PM
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I have had all kind of different problems with the orange ECU's, but I still run one on my GTX  On a street car you want vacuum advance, on the strip you don't. That's the base line. I don't think there are any bad brands out there, except maybe for the Chinese MSD copies. Right now I'm building a crank trigger ignition without mechanical distributor for a 440. I believe there are lots of hidden ponies in the ignition. Think all the way from crank to the plugs... Have you seen a steady timing marker on an old V8?  I will try to run it on a chassis dyno before and after to get proved figures! 
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