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Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters #1620450
05/15/14 05:58 PM 05/15/14 05:58 PM
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I am assuming it is possible to safely remove enough material from the heads that the lifters can be removed with the heads on? I am running comp 828-16s.

I am changing my roller lifters out before drag week this year so I will have the heads off and would like to modify them if possible. It would be super awesome if I could do it with them on the car, but I am sure its not that easy!

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620451
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Clark... I did the same thing to my W-2 heads.. the
only ones that had to have work were the end sets..
can you check yours(is your intake off) to see which
ones need work.. also its would make a difference on
how much the deck has been cut.. if any
Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1620452
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yes a lot depends on deck height, mine was at 9.350 and there was no way a roller lifter was coming out without pulling the heads.

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1620453
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I am sure the block has been cut some, as the pistons are zero deck and not custom. I'll have to pull the intake and look again. This is something I should have checked while it was apart lol.

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620454
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So from my reading here the 828 lifters wont come out unless you take the heads off?
Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Scamp408] #1620455
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So from my reading here the 828 lifters wont come out unless you take the heads off?



I havent checked all the different lifters but of
the ones I have, I havent had all 8 sets come out
without some work... on most the end sets need a bit
of clearance added on the bottom of the head... this
is with a minor bit of deck cut... even the center
clys are close but with a bit of wiggle they come out
Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Scamp408] #1620456
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So from my reading here the 828 lifters wont come out unless you take the heads off?



Mine won't, they could be pulled up for a cam swap no problem but removing them isn't going to happen. I will be changing them in a few weeks and I will try and remember to snap some pics.

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620457
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Well this throws a monkey wrench in my whole plan.

Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Scamp408] #1620458
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Well this throws a monkey wrench in my whole plan.



It wouldn't be a Mopar if it didn't would it?

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620459
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I pulled the motor Sunday afternoon and got the intake and rocker gear off last night. It looks like i would have to shave a good amount of meat from the heads to get the lifters out. The deck area of the head overlaps into the valley a fair amount and that is where the hold up is. I am going to check with Ryan J and see what he thinks about taking out material there.

I do know if it wasn't for drag week I wouldn't be replacing anything. 5000ish miles on this valvetrain(other than the springs) and it all looks great. I figured its best to swap in some new lifters and send these to comp to be checked out rather than wait for them to fail

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620460
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If I recall you blocked off the oil to the lifters
and just use the return oil to lube them... what do
you idle at(rpm) and what is your spring pressure
Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620461
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I figured its best to swap in some new lifters and send these to comp to be checked out rather than wait for them to fail



Let us know what they say...

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1620462
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If I recall you blocked off the oil to the lifters
and just use the return oil to lube them... what do
you idle at(rpm) and what is your spring pressure




It idles about 1200RPM. The cam is grooved so it oils full time and I don't have any restrictions in it. Being a street car I figured I can't get to much oil up top as long as I hold solid oil pressure on the big end.

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Bad340fish] #1620463
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Clark, I once changed lifters without removing the intake

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: sixpackgut] #1620464
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Clark, I once changed lifters without removing the intake



Dig the Mountain Dew overflow bottle................. The very first time I raced at L.A.C.R. I had no clue about tech so upon getting my junk inspected they pointed out that I needed an overflow bottle or I couldn`t race. Well I finished my Southern Comfort and Cherry Coke that I was drinking out of a blue sports bottle(stupid I know)and asked if this would work and he said just secure it well and have fun and it`s been on ever since which has been over 22+ years.

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: Thumperdart] #1620465
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By the looks of the towel in the intake he must be one of Jeff Gordons "rainbow warriors" too.

Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: 67_Satellite] #1620466
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By the looks of the towel in the intake he must be one of Jeff Gordons "rainbow warriors" too.



Tho what are you thaying thilly............

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: sixpackgut] #1620467
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Clark, I once changed lifters without removing the intake



Now that's just COLD man!!

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: sixpackgut] #1620468
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Clark, I once changed lifters without removing the intake





Ya but did you do it on a 360 powered 1976 Dodge van in the parking garage, during vacation, at Ocean City, MD. I did.

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Re: Small block Eddies and solid roller lifters [Re: sixpackgut] #1620469
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Clark, I once changed lifters without removing the intake



That was uncalled for lol.

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