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Re: Accusump q's [Re: Moparmal] #1596791
03/25/14 12:02 PM
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I cant expand the size of my oil pan due to header clearances...

Could I use an accusump as a simple reserve tank, plumbed 'in line' with my oil filter , without using the valve for cold starts etc???

IOW just leave the valve open at all times as an additional reservoir?




The only issue is you will have all that extra oil in the pan may find areas to leak from.If your going to install the unit take advantage of the benifit of priming an engine that sits for a period of time.

Re: Accusump q's [Re: Moparmal] #1596792
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Quote:

I cant expand the size of my oil pan due to header clearances...

Could I use an accusump as a simple reserve tank, plumbed 'in line' with my oil filter , without using the valve for cold starts etc???

IOW just leave the valve open at all times as an additional reservoir?



We've lowered the car so had to modify the sump for ground clearance, which equals less capacity.
The accusump is giving us back the lost capacity plus the added bonus of all the other advantages mentioned. Only down side is finding room for fitting all the stuff somewhere
And thanks for all the answers


'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
Re: Accusump q's [Re: Tig] #1596793
03/26/14 05:40 AM
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Thx to the OP for letting me piggy back on this thread


67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
Re: Accusump q's [Re: Moparmal] #1596794
03/26/14 07:06 PM
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'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
Re: Accusump q's [Re: Tig] #1596795
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just a quick update. Checked it all out, works great. Primed with the drill and got 60 psi on the dash gauge and accusump gauge. 60 psi is normal for new oil. Closed the valve and waited 1/2 hour opened the valve and got 50 psi on the gauge in the car. Cool.
This is without the one-way, diode, check valve thing btw


'74 Challenger..9.46 @ 145.9 1/4, 6.001 @ 118 1/8 so far. 4023lb !!! # N/A, Marsh performance 655ci, Indy Maxx, T/R, Indy 600-13 X's, Street legal, pump gas, full interior, Cal-Tracs, mufflers, 3:73's and real 10.5 radials.
9.51 @ 142.4 1/4, 6.003 @ 114 1/8 with our old mule KB, 572-13, 580 wedge.
RHD '68 Barracuda Fastback 323ci street/strip. Best ET 13.88 @ 99.03
Re: Accusump q's [Re: Tig] #1596796
03/30/14 11:54 PM
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Anybody running an accusump? do you use the oneway valve? Thanks.




Yes and Yes, my thinking on one way was I saw little reason to divert pressure/flow back thru oil filter and/or back flush all the crap every time accumulator operated. One way valve is larger grey cyl to right of tee connection.

See pic #57, and I'm not NHRA, so inside car is not an issue.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1


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Re: Accusump q's [Re: jcc] #1596797
03/31/14 08:57 PM
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A oneway check valve isn't necessarry if you plumb it after the filter,most common filters have a checkvalve in the filter so they don't drain back when the pump is not operating.

Re: Accusump q's [Re: B G Racing] #1596798
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What is wrong with plumbing the accumulator into the ports at the back of the block, usually where the pressure guage goes. I would like to plumb it into the larger of the two ports. What do you think?

Re: Accusump q's [Re: Lance6611] #1596799
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What is wrong with plumbing the accumulator into the ports at the back of the block, usually where the pressure guage goes. I would like to plumb it into the larger of the two ports. What do you think?




You want a large port going into the block.. normally
if you use a remote filter you plumb it in on the
outlet side so it has plenty of volume

Re: Accusump q's [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1596800
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i was looking into this a couple of years ago, i went with this.....

made by masterlube...
http://masterlube.net/classic.htm

according to them there teflon line moves a lot of oil.

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Re: Accusump q's [Re: Lance6611] #1596801
04/04/14 09:25 AM
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Quote:

What is wrong with plumbing the accumulator into the ports at the back of the block, usually where the pressure gauge goes. I would like to plumb it into the larger of the two ports. What do you think?



Many people have done that, including E-berg on his Bold Beeper (at one time anyway). But I guess if you are running a remote filter anyway it is an easier way to do it as well as utilising a larger pipeline....

Re: Accusump q's [Re: 70blackfish] #1596802
04/04/14 02:21 PM
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Quote:

i was looking into this a couple of years ago, i went with this.....

made by masterlube...
http://masterlube.net/classic.htm

according to them there teflon line moves a lot of oil.


how much are those? Is yours the 3 qt short model? Barton uses thes accumulators.


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Re: Accusump q's [Re: Tig] #1596803
04/04/14 02:29 PM
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I plumbed mine into the line FROM the filter to the block...AFTER the filter...In THIS case a one way valve is necessary to prevent the accumulator from backwashing the filter. I believe it is recommended by Canton to install this way..AFTER the filter. I used their one way valve..I think some in this thread are confusing an in-line valve with the actuating valve. For my actuating valve I found a SS 12v valve compatible with oils and used that...much cheaper than buying one from Canton or Moroso..I think I paid under $25...

Re: Accusump q's [Re: bwhackd34] #1596804
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here is a pic...the one way valve is the bronze piece where the line from the accumulator T's into the feed line to block on passenger side inner fender. The electric valve is the piece with the black solenoid closer to the front on the same inner fender...

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