Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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They still make cams? They make them for something other than a small block Chevy ?
Yes, we're still making cams, and yes we still have all of Sig Erson's original profiles. I took the manufacturing facility over in October of 2011 and I'm striving to make the best camshaft product on the market. We do have a few more modern, aggressive profiles with higher lifts. Trying to cover the whole market. We'd be glad to custom grind you a camshaft. Our custom turnaround times are generally within 24 hours. This is the manufacturing facility, not salesmen. We're looking for feedback on what the market is asking for and what will bring our customers the highest quality product out. Thanks Russ
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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Do they still have the old grinds as well? The Super High Flow II was a great hydraulic for a stock inch Street Hemi.
Sheldon
Yes, we still make all of Sig's original Mopar and Hemi cams. We have all of the original profiles. If you have any of your favorites that you would like, just let us know. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Thanks Russ
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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There's a lot of discussion (here and other forums) about the poor quality of aftermarket cams/lifters on the shelves today. I don't run an Erson (or any other aftermarket) cam, but when I read your post, the first question that popped into my head was: I wonder what, if anything, Erson is doing better than everyone else to prevent this? Also, do you manufacture your own lifters, or do you source them from elsewhere?
We don't manufacture our on lifters at this time. Believe me, I wish that we did. But on the cam side of things, we do run every cam we grind across the Campro machine to make sure that it specs out to be exactly what it is supposed to be. Where a lot of your larger companies check one out of twenty or one out of fifty, we test every cam. We also check the taper on all of our flat tappets to make sure that it's at its maximum angle to work with the flat tappet lifters that the end user is forced to use. We are striving to make the best cam product on the market, so we welcome any feedback that will help us better what we do. Thanks Russ
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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Hello Russ !!! I know you guys inspect every cam I've seen it during my visits for Radiac Abrasives. Tell Troy and the guys I said hello. MLR426 Martin Wimberly
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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How about posting a sample catalog of your Mopar grinds???
I had my machine shop check into one of your grinds a year or so ago. It appeared to be a "modern" grind, by the adv, .050, .200 and lift compared to a comparable Comp "modern" lobe.
72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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I work part time at a shop that uses lots of Ersons--First Class quality--EXCELLENT tech help and turn around time --they are as good as any grinder out there. All the BS about "modern" grinds always chaps me as an engine builder--customers will take months and spend weeks to select the PERFECT latest hi tech Whamodynoe 9000 camshaft--then almost always they could have made a better choice and do some other thing that defies logic and hurts the build way more than the less than perfect cam would--The cold hard truth is that most all "modern" grinds are MAXING out usable lifter area--a luxury Mopar had--as in had at one time but now these grinds beat the heck out of the valve train--have used up the extra lifter diameter "safety zone" that Mopar has always enjoyed--and for WHAT??? A Few extra HP that the Computer "says" will be there??? So what if it is 10 extra HP??? Who cares?? Now you are beating up the valve train--having to use crazy spring pressure to control this stupid computer designed ( and almost always UN-TESTED) junk--killing lifters--Oh Boy!!! I gots me an extra HP--Yahoo!!!! Erson is great! I know shops that can build more HP with a $52 big Summit cam than a $400 custom because they know what they are doing with the other 95% of the build. Ok go back to wasting your nights picking that perfect dream cam that will make your engine perfect. I will build another with the ole Scummit special that will melt some more tires and make another customer happy and I will probably send it out the door with way less spring pressure than you would approve of yet it will still turn ( and control) all of the usable RPM the cam can muster. I guess I should start using Comps newest roller cams that Now require ( per their advice) near 1000 lbs open pressure to control--oh wait ...my lifter wheels just passed into the oil pan! But..that thing made some extra HP because the computer said so
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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Ok Ok I just came off a 16 hour day and am a little ragged--but Erson is a great cam seller and yes I have made awesome HP in a Mopar with "ole Chevy lobes " on Mopar stick--everyone used to Yes the latest will net you a few but it is at a Big price IMO
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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03/17/14 01:53 AM
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At one time Erson did a group buy with www.slantsix.org I never bought one. I wonder about the quality of blanks for the slant. Regrinding a stock cam could be an option. I'll post a link to the group over there.
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Re: Erson Cams Quality Discussion
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I ran a Erson 270 grind in a slant 6 for years. I would love to have another, along with a 280! With a 270 cam, 3.55 gear, 833od, mildly ported head with big stainless valves, a super six intake, 2.5" exhaust, and a mopar electronic distributor using a gm hei module, my 84 swb truck would pull a proven 25-27 mpg at 70 mph, if not bucking a wind over 15 mph. I ran this cam for over 75000 miles with no issues whatsoever. A lot of people thought it had a healthy small block in it. It sounded really sweet! I was never kind to that engine.
84 D150 440/727 79 /6 swb D150 1964 A100 window van. Just because it has spark plug tubes doesn't mean it's a Hemi.
If ya haven't been there, ya just wouldn't understand.
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