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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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01/31/14 02:09 PM
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Found the pics from my Doc-Tona. 440 Auto. This one has a "5" for the auto trans...
Ok, my mystery solved for the "916" and the "5". Any ideas what the markings on the rear of the drivers side valve cover as I posted above? Thanks, Mike
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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01/31/14 03:21 PM
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Found the pics from my Doc-Tona. 440 Auto. This one has a "5" for the auto trans...
Ok, my mystery solved for the "916" and the "5". Any ideas what the markings on the rear of the drivers side valve cover as I posted above? Thanks, Mike
Looks to me like an arrow pointing to where the throttle pressure linkage would be installed...
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
[Re: FJ5_Fish]
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01/31/14 09:15 PM
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The 3 digit engine number is the last 3 numbers of the part number for that Engine Assembly. On the other side....an automatic trans equipped car would get either a 5, a 25 or a 125 depending on year etc.
Interesting...thanks. Any idea what number one should find on a 69 A12 automatic car? Should it be the same as a 4bbl car?
Last edited by 69CoronetRT; 01/31/14 09:15 PM.
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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01/31/14 10:19 PM
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Ah, thats right. Forgot it got a different carb fro cars with A/C. That makes sense now!
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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01/31/14 11:03 PM
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Good question. The A12 engines had some special features such as engine wire harness, valves, valve springs, distributor...not to mention intake and carbs. The 5600 mile automatic survivor Bee on the A12 website does have the number 5 on the driver's side but the number on the passenger side is smudged. It looks like a 950? However, the last 3 on my broadcast sheet engine number is 926 and it's an A12 automatic. I would think the number on the valve cover should read 926?
926 are the last three digits for a 383 automatic with a heater. That's on the fender tag of an A12 because the 440 replaced the 383 as the 440 was part of the A12 option package. The A12 is on the fender tag to indicate what other "options" were to be added.
The OP's 916 should also be on the fender tag if the OP has one?
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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02/01/14 01:02 AM
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The OP's 916 should also be on the fender tag if the OP has one?
Only LR cars had the engine assembly number on the tag. The car is a Charger so it's not from the LR plant so the assembly number won't be on the tag.
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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The 3 digit engine number is the last 3 numbers of the part number for that Engine Assembly. On the other side....an automatic trans equipped car would get either a 5, a 25 or a 125 depending on year etc. This number is based on the Engineering number for the Kick-down linkage. That is why standard transmission cars have a "0" on the v/cover....no kick-down linkage. I have a bunch of pics of various cars...I'll look for them. I have not seen these numbers on some low-mile, original cars....it seems not all had these markings....they were probably identified by different means...such as paper tags etc.
Very cool!! thanks for the clarification
Ron
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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02/02/14 06:29 AM
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Does a 5 mean that the kickdown is the same on an A12. As a 440-4?
Don't know John because they were deleting the 383 kickdown rod (p/n 2843797) and replacing it with a kickdown rod p/n 2951495 therefore the 5 on the driver's side and kickdown side valve cover of the engine. Don't know what that part number (2951495) is listed for normally?
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Re: '69 440 Valve Cover marking - See Pic
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02/03/14 04:21 PM
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The "5" denotes that the engine is for an automatic trans....regardless of engine type. The engine part number would dictate the actual linkage that is to be installed. And yes - the A12 engines had there own unique 3 digit engine numbers....which do not show up in GG's white books. A common A12 resto mistake is to put the b/cast sheet 383 number on the valve cover.
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