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Cheap Headers #1549587 12/18/13 12:36 AM 12/18/13 12:36 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 246 gainsville, usa J johnfin OP enthusiast
johnfin OP enthusiast J Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 246 gainsville, usa	Does anyone make a cheap (around $165) full length header for a 1969 B body with big block AND...power steering.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549588 12/18/13 12:53 AM 12/18/13 12:53 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	Where did the $165 number come from? The contents of the kids piggy bank? GOOD fitting headers cost more than $165.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: Kern Dog] #1549589 12/18/13 01:10 AM 12/18/13 01:10 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 246 gainsville, usa J johnfin OP enthusiast
johnfin OP enthusiast J Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 246 gainsville, usa	I looked at sites like Jegs and Summit, they had a few from 139 to 175 so I just piked around 165. Only problem is they wont work with power steering. I have some HP cast exhaust manifolds but dont really want to use them.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549590 12/18/13 01:55 AM 12/18/13 01:55 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa 340SHORTY Truck Nut
340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	I had Hedmans on my 71 RR 383 with PS. Good fit with no interference problems.. I am truckless..

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: 340SHORTY] #1549591 12/18/13 03:03 AM 12/18/13 03:03 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	They will work with power steering. You may have to make a couple dings for clearance but the cheapies will work. One way is to use a c-clamp with a block of wood on one side so you don't mash them up like with a hammer.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549592 12/18/13 07:29 AM 12/18/13 07:29 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	I used Doug's headers on mine. I was originally looking at the less expensive headers as well. But after comparing them all from Summit brand up to TTI, Dougs were the best all around IMO. They have the same really thick, antiwarp phalanges that the TTI's have, and the same thick gauge steel for the pipes, they fit just as well as the the TTI's, which is miles ahead of the cheaper ones, and go above the suspension unlike the cheapies, they dont hang low and hit/scrape the ground, and they cost significantly less than the TTI's. Install was very easy, unlike the cheaper headers. I didnt have to take any of my suspension apart. I have and automatic with power steering and I didn't have to disconnect any of the steering components. The passenger side went in from the bottom with no problems, and the driver side required loosening the motor mount and slightly elevating that side of the motor with a floor jack and a piece of wood that reached up to the pan rail. I also removed both torsion bars for the install. The extra headache saved by not having to undo the suspension, not having to jack up the passenger side of the motor, not having the suspension travel between the pipes, not having to make a single ding anywhere, and not having to disconnect any of the steering components, etc...saved me tons of time. And as an added bonus I can R&R my mini starter without touching the the headers. I dont know about a stock starter because my mini was already installed before the headers. roe 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: roe] #1549593 12/18/13 09:50 AM 12/18/13 09:50 AM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,696 jersey S Spaceman Spiff master
Spaceman Spiff master S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,696 jersey	I hear blackjack makes a nice fitting cheap header.... 526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1549594 12/18/13 12:30 PM 12/18/13 12:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 246 gainsville, usa J johnfin OP enthusiast
johnfin OP enthusiast J Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 246 gainsville, usa	According to the Doug's site, cant run them if you have an auto with column shift, which I have.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549595 12/18/13 08:46 PM 12/18/13 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: According to the Doug's site, cant run them if you have an auto with column shift, which I have. Thats what I saw too, when I ordered mine, but was assured by the guy that I ordered from that it would work. And it did, fit like a glove, no problems, no close spots, nada. And I have a column shift auto as well. 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1549596 12/18/13 09:07 PM 12/18/13 09:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,393 Highland, MI. Sunroofcuda master
Sunroofcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,393 Highland, MI.	Quote: They will work with power steering. You may have to make a couple dings for clearance but the cheapies will work. One way is to use a c-clamp with a block of wood on one side so you don't mash them up like with a hammer. If they are Dynomax, they won't fit with PS. No Man With A Good Car Needs To Be Justified

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: roe] #1549597 12/18/13 09:53 PM 12/18/13 09:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: They have the same really thick, antiwarp phalanges Doug's headers have finger bones? They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: Supercuda] #1549598 12/19/13 01:06 AM 12/19/13 01:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 39 mi E ERAT340 member
ERAT340 member E Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 39 mi	Dont wanna see DOUGS nameplate in my face when I open the hood.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: Supercuda] #1549599 12/19/13 01:06 AM 12/19/13 01:06 AM
Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio J jlatessa pro stock
jlatessa pro stock J Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,317 Ohio

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: Supercuda] #1549600 12/19/13 01:21 AM 12/19/13 01:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX roe master
roe master Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,344 Central TX	Quote: Quote: They have the same really thick, antiwarp phalanges Doug's headers have finger bones? 1971 Plymouth Satellite 408/904 8 3/4 3.23 SG

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1549601 12/19/13 03:43 AM 12/19/13 03:43 AM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	Quote: They will work with power steering. You may have to make a couple dings for clearance but the cheapies will work. One way is to use a c-clamp with a block of wood on one side so you don't mash them up like with a hammer. The Summit brand WONT work on a 67 with P.S. This much I know for a fact. Hooker Comps are less than $100 from that budget (which really isn't one). Be patient and save some coin. Last edited by StealthWedge67; 12/19/13 03:46 AM. LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549602 12/19/13 10:18 AM 12/19/13 10:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet
Mr.Yuck Not enough dumb comments...yet Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 24,562 Brookeville, Md	These are the Summit racing headers, they fit well and I didn't have to bend or ding anything. Just take your time, get the car up and the engine up and they will go in fine. and it was column shift at the time. 7963883-4402.jpg (99 downloads) Last edited by Mr.Yuck; 12/19/13 10:20 AM. [IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/pui5j.jpg[/IMG] Coming soon!!!!

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1549603 12/19/13 10:32 AM 12/19/13 10:32 AM
Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida M mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks!
mopar346 Let me tell ya about fat chicks! M Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 11,836 Florida	Sale your HP manifolds to make up the gap and buy what you want. Careful, your character's showing!

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549604 12/22/13 06:31 AM 12/22/13 06:31 AM
Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28 America B bambi member
bambi member B Joined: Nov 2013 Posts: 28 America	Quote: I looked at sites like Jegs and Summit, they had a few from 139 to 175 so I just piked around 165. Only problem is they wont work with power steering. I have some HP cast exhaust manifolds but dont really want to use them. You are joking, right? WHY? What the hell do you expect to increase? Per dollar wise, Head aches, fitment issues, burnt plug wires, exhaust leaks, starter fitment issues/burn out. SERIOUSLY? What the hell do you expect to increase? What is your primary goal? Do you realize that headers actuall only increase HP by maybe ten or fifteen over stock? and THAT does not include Factory HP manifolds? Factory manifolds are almost as good as headers, with out all the hassles. WHAT on Gods GREEN EARTH makes you want to swap them out for HEADERS? Are you crazy? Seriously. You will never ever ever see any increase on a street motor. You will invite yourself open to a host of problems with headers. WHY? Why would anyone make this boneheaded move? If you want noise, get some Flowmaster Mufflers and be done with it. You can't possibly be serious. READ UP ON IT.

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: johnfin] #1549605 12/22/13 09:30 AM 12/22/13 09:30 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: Does anyone make a cheap (around $165) full length header for a 1969 B body with big block AND...power steering. You want to buy "cheap" headers...

Re: Cheap Headers [Re: bambi] #1549606 12/22/13 12:03 PM 12/22/13 12:03 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee P pushbutton pro stock
pushbutton pro stock P Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,565 tennessee	Quote: Quote: I looked at sites like Jegs and Summit, they had a few from 139 to 175 so I just piked around 165. Only problem is they wont work with power steering. I have some HP cast exhaust manifolds but dont really want to use them. You are joking, right? WHY? What the hell do you expect to increase? Per dollar wise, Head aches, fitment issues, burnt plug wires, exhaust leaks, starter fitment issues/burn out. SERIOUSLY? What the hell do you expect to increase? What is your primary goal? Do you realize that headers actuall only increase HP by maybe ten or fifteen over stock? and THAT does not include Factory HP manifolds? Factory manifolds are almost as good as headers, with out all the hassles. WHAT on Gods GREEN EARTH makes you want to swap them out for HEADERS? Are you crazy? Seriously. You will never ever ever see any increase on a street motor. You will invite yourself open to a host of problems with headers. WHY? Why would anyone make this boneheaded move? If you want noise, get some Flowmaster Mufflers and be done with it. You can't possibly be serious. READ UP ON IT. Why don't you tell us how you really feel.

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