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Smallest battery you have used? #1527231
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Smallest mainly meaning lightest. I am disregarding the CF/Lithium stuff, because of +$1K cost and fear of fire Since handling is all about weight, and many are concerned with under 1 lb gains, seems like losing 20lbs? in a battery would be a no brainer. Additionally since CCA rating is somewhat related to ultimate battery weight, the real question is what is the lowest CCA rating you have felt comfortable with, in getting your car started when in good running form? I could have asked this in race section, but 1/4 mile is all about rear bumper mounted truck batteries or something.


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I use a CAT battery and have it in the trunk for the counter balance effect. Braille makes super light weight batteries IIRC. Batteries are not somewhere I would skimp on as far as output and reliability go. My car has a stereo too lol.


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Taxi has a 17lb Braille in the stock tray. I ran the entire 2 days of the Tire Rack test with no alternator. Just 5 minute charges between runs and tire changes. Never missed a beat and performed flawlessly.

I actually ran Motorstate the same way. Guess I'll get around to swapping alternators this winter.

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I've run a Dyna Bat dry cell battery, 13.5 lbs, from Davis Unified Ignitions (avail at Summit Racing) for over 5 years in my 318 65 Cuda. I let it sit in storage for 1 year and then two winters without charging and it is still working great after a good trickle charge. I really like it. Seems to have plenty of juice to crank over a V8.

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I've seen $150 Lithium's that weight 2 lbs that I'm told will do fine in a car with 210 CCA

Can CCA in a Lithium battery be treated different than a old wet battery??

They do have 540 CCA lithiums for $308, but those are 4.96 lbs FATTY's.

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I'd be fine fine I think with 540 CCA fatty at $308, is the chance of fire with lithium real or very remote?


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I've seen $150 Lithium's that weight 2 lbs that I'm told will do fine in a car with 210 CCA

Can CCA in a Lithium battery be treated different than a old wet battery??

They do have 540 CCA lithiums for $308, but those are 4.96 lbs FATTY's.



What brand? Do you have a link?

Re: Smallest battery you have used? [Re: autoxcuda] #1527238
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Quote:

I've seen $150 Lithium's that weight 2 lbs that I'm told will do fine in a car with 210 CCA

Can CCA in a Lithium battery be treated different than a old wet battery??

They do have 540 CCA lithiums for $308, but those are 4.96 lbs FATTY's.




I'd be in for some of those batteries. Got a link to where I can get em?


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I've seen $150 Lithium's that weight 2 lbs that I'm told will do fine in a car with 210 CCA

Can CCA in a Lithium battery be treated different than a old wet battery??

They do have 540 CCA lithiums for $308, but those are 4.96 lbs FATTY's.



What brand? Do you have a link?




These are Lithium Motorcycle and ATV batteries. Same applications people were getting the dry cells from.

It seems these batteries are sold under various resellers "labels". I don't know the true manufacturer.

Phantom Battery
Shorai Battery

$169: 18 Ah, 270 CCA, L = 5.83”, W = 2.28”, H = 3.50”, 2.31 lbs: http://www.ebay.com/itm/APP18L1-BS12-12V...=p2054897.l4275

$199: 5.5 lbs 12V 21Ah 315CCA: http://www.ebay.com/itm/APP21L6-BS12-12V...=p2054897.l4275

http://www.amazon.com/Shorai-Lithium-Batt-18Ah-LFX18A1-BS12/dp/B007GR5DXE/ref=pd_sbs_auto_1

LFX36L3-BS12, $270, 5.5 pounds, 7.7 x 5.7 x 8 inches, 18AH, read review that it's listed at 520 CCA, other review tested it at 1000 CCA on load tester: http://www.amazon.com/Shorai-LFX36L3-BS1...f=pd_sbs_auto_6

At the LA Roadster show a battery shop was selling these for car at around $200. He said they did fine for cars with no accessories.


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I already have a 13 1/2 pound Genesis that I paid $66 for a few years back that will crank a 17:1 big block with no problems. I'm really interested in seeing if the even smaller and lighter batteries will get the job done. Thanks for the links.


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These lithium batteries are incredible and prices are dropping.

Now check this out...I saw this at a customer that has a AAA tow company with a battery service truck. This will jump 2-3 cars on a single charge. It will fit in you coat pocket. Has 12v, USB and bunch of adapters too.
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Check this out, costs around $150 they said.

http://shop.antigravitybatteries.com/micro-start-xp-1/




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I am surprised at how affordable the Lithium's have become. Almost makes one rethink the need to relocate battery rearward/trunk with the hassle and additional length/weight of cable needed.


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... Almost makes one rethink the need to relocate battery rearward/trunk with the hassle and additional length/weight of cable needed.




I want to put mine under here.



But they are getting small enough maybe I should put it in place of the heater box when I take it out.

Re: Smallest battery you have used? [Re: autoxcuda] #1527244
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I have a lightweight smaller Odyssey motorcycle battery hidden in my stock style Mopar battery case. looks all stock & saved like 28+ lbs.


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Look like this from the top side.


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Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Read post #80 on this LX forums thread. Interesting info about using Deka batteries as cheap alternatives to Braille. I just googled the ETX30L and they are available under $100. 
http://www.lxforums.com/board/f63/weight-reduction-factoids-256293/


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Read post #80 on this LX forums thread. Interesting info about using Deka batteries as cheap alternatives to Braille. I just googled the ETX30L and they are available under $100. 
http://www.lxforums.com/board/f63/weight-reduction-factoids-256293/




Yea, the Braille's are very expensive. The just look new stickers on the cases that Deka and Phantom use/are.

These seem to be all repackaged restickered deals.

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I have a lightweight smaller Odyssey motorcycle battery hidden in my stock style Mopar battery case. looks all stock & saved like 28+ lbs.




I used like 4-5 of those type battery's back around 1993-4 in a dragster with a 16-1 572" motor. It turned over the motor fine but could not stand the vibration in a solid rear axle mounted dragster. One good tire shake and a 200 dollar battery was junk. I quite using them for racing because they didn't hold up.







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