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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: 72Swinger]
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11/02/13 10:23 PM
11/02/13 10:23 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Mr Wizzard
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Spokane Washington
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The 72 style dual snorkel A-body scoop is a good bolt on piece and they look good on pretty much everything. That said, the area under the scoop does not offer a ton of available space if you need clearance for under hood modifications. The 63/64 Max Wedge scoop is a similar appearing scoop, also a bolt on. These are more correct for the Valliant's vintage, are not overly large on the hood (unlike the same vintage 64/65 Hemi scoop), have more room underneath for clearances, and due to the center support being adjustable, you can "cheat" and adjust the center high up or down for clearance or function. They are available from multiple vendors as fiberglass, steel, and aluminum reproductions (all originals were aluminum) the metal versions are hand made, very nice, pricey, and have lengthy lead times, but are worth it IMO. 
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: topside]
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11/02/13 11:04 PM
11/02/13 11:04 PM
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So Cal
autoxcuda
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Two observations, if I may:
1. If it's a high-speed car, I'd be VENTING the hood rather than adding a scoop.
2. Hot-rod fabricators are one thing, but a real racecar fabricator is better for a car that will actually race. There's one such guy in Santa Clarita: his stuff runs at the front, is spot-on out of the box, and I trust the guy with my life.
Who in Santa Clarita is that? I'm now going around that area for work.
I know of the big shop in the valley. Heard some things about them.
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: HotRodChassis]
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11/03/13 12:08 AM
11/03/13 12:08 AM
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NW Chicago suburban area
Mopar Mitch
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Kevin... I've had my car on display at MCACN in 2011, but not on display this year... maybe again in a cpl yrs.
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: moparx]
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11/03/13 09:28 PM
11/03/13 09:28 PM
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Utica, Michigan
Bashton
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I can tell you that Kevin Tulley and his crew do some amazing work. I have had the pleasure of hosting several of his past builds at several shows, including past MCACN shows. Quite simply...he gets it and his name or his shop name does not go on anything that is not of utmost build quality. Bashton MCACN Managing Member www.mcacn.com
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: PHJ426]
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11/16/13 02:38 PM
11/16/13 02:38 PM
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Illinois
HotRodChassis
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Interesting choice to utilize the big block engine? Any insight as to why a big block over a small block in the early A body chassis?
Lots. The engine weights (LA: 550lbs, Slant 6 (which came in the car):475lbs, RB: 670.) are around 100lbs apart. That being said, you could do an LA and use aluminum heads and get it's weight down to under 500lbs. But here's what we're doing with the RB: Aluminum heads (-80lbs), no water pump or water pump houseing (-40lbs), no carb (-5lbs). So we can get the weight of the motor under that of an LA engine pretty easy. We're also using a motor plate, so no motor mounts on the block, rubber motor mounts, or motor mounts on the frame. If we end up going with an aluminum block, that's another 100lbs off the original weight.
Parts. There are more parts, and for less money, for the 440 than you can get for the LA. And the sacrifice in RPM will be made up in raw power.
Hilborn no longer makes a Stack Injector for the LA. And never did in electronic form. Even so, Hilborn tells me that the LA mechanical injector weighed more than the RB injector due to the one piece manifold.
Valve train angle. The LA valve train is left over from the Poly motors. They never redesigned the heads. Just the exterior for the LA block. The RB has a totally new valve train, and was designed for the engine. Ask any engine builder, and they'll tell you the valve train in the RB is bulletproof and well designed for flow.
Not harshing on the LA motors. Who doesn't love a 340 Six Pack in an AAR 'Cuda?? I LOVE AAR 'Cuda's and T/A Challengers. But the physical size of the motor doesn't matter when you can get the weight below 550 lbs. The LSX454 we used in the Raybestos GTO came in above 600lbs. And it handled great and was a missile. Engine size is all just a trade off between RPM and brute power. The only difference between the two is gearing.
Hope this helps guys.
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: bigdad]
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02/13/14 05:12 PM
02/13/14 05:12 PM
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Illinois
HotRodChassis
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Sorry I haven't been on here for a while guys. With FB, our blog, website, working in the shop, email, etc., the internet could be a full time job. We've got the car on the ground and I just finished installing the front frame rails yesterday evening. I'll be slinging the motor in tonight, and then it's on to the front suspension. We're having a Cabin Fever Movie Night on Saturday Night at 6p and showing "LeMans" with Steve McQueen if any of you guys are local enough to attend. You can see the Violent Valiant first hand. Here's a shot of the rear section of the cage completed. 
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: HotRodChassis]
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02/13/14 05:14 PM
02/13/14 05:14 PM
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Illinois
HotRodChassis
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Join us at the shop to watch a great movie, videos from Road America, and anything else we can come up with. Bench race, tell lies, and share fellowship with gear heads from all genres of racing. Pro-Touring, Drag Racing and Trans-Am will all be represented. Jimi Day from FM3/Optima Batterieswill be on hand to give a short presentation about the all new Ultimate Street Car Association. Safety equipment, fees, etc. will be presented for your edification. BYOB, $5 for pizza and a lawn chair. Get out of the house and hang with some of the most knowledgeable and enthusiastic people from around the country on a cold Winters night. We'll be showing "LeMans", for the main feature, as well as have home movies and videos playing during the social time before and after the movie. Hot Rod Chassis & Cycle 59 Factory Road, Addison, Illinois 60101 
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: HotRodChassis]
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02/13/14 05:17 PM
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Illinois
HotRodChassis
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From this:  To this: [image]http://bangshift.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/unnamed.jpeg[/image]
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: magnumautoresto]
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02/13/14 05:24 PM
02/13/14 05:24 PM
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Illinois
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I am pretty sure if you go on the bangshift link posted eariler they are doing weekly updates on this build under the Mopar projects pages.
I have been to Kevin's shop quite a few times in the last 2 years as we are collaberating on a project for one of our customers and without a doubt they do outstanding work!!!
The level of metal craftsmanship is unrivaled. For anyone that loves awesome street rods you need to go their website and check out some of their other builds also. The Cosmic Outcast is unreal.
Many may remember the GTO they built that was for Raybestos a few years ago from Hot Rod TV.
Kevin really is a Mopar guy at heart.
It sure is nice to see a Mopar that will be able to compete with many of the other brands in these autocross events that are so popular today.
Mark
Thanks for the kind words Mark. Been a while since we have seen you. Stop in sometime when you're on your way to Teds!
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Re: Project : Violent Valiant
[Re: HotRodChassis]
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02/13/14 05:50 PM
02/13/14 05:50 PM
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NW Chicago suburban area
Mopar Mitch
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Thanks for the invite... I'll try for this Sat eve... may not get there until ~7pm due to an earlier event..
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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do you have any pics of the rear driveshaft loops you have installed on say, a 4 link [dana 60 perhaps] ?
