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2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed #1516370
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My 2005 Hemi Ram has twice now died at an odd time. The first one was at 35mph and I lifted off the gas to coast toward a stop light. It was like I turned the key off. I threw it in neutral and restarted it no problem. It ran fine for the last two months. This morning I was driving down a winding road at about 25mph and I lift off the gas to slow for a corner and was I surprised to have virtually no steering and no brakes to make the corner! I muscled the truck around the corner, slapped it into neutral, and restarted the truck no problem. It ran fine the rest of today. I did the key on/off/on thing and no codes come up. Any ideas? It was pretty scary this morning almost going head on into oncoming traffic.

Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: B1arno] #1516371
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Fuel delivery problems may throw no codes yet still occur on occasion.

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This brings up an interesting question. I've never experienced a fuel delivery problem in an injected vehicle. Does it differ from a carburated vehicle? Fuel problems I've experienced in the past have kind of sputtered and then died. This was like I turned the key off. Does injection sputter, or does it just go dead?

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check and see if the throttle body is dirty and clean it. also check trans fluid level


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Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: B1arno] #1516374
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This was like I turned the key off. Does injection sputter, or does it just go dead?




Smarter guys may chime in after me, but keep in mind that EFI runs at 50 psi or more compared to a 4-6 lbs on a carbureted engine. If the pressure is meant to be at 50 and drops much below that, I'd expect to see a few hiccups.

Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: Kern Dog] #1516375
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So from your post, acts like the key is just turn off while driving. Most of the time a fuel pump will act as if you are running out of fuel, from what you described sounds like a crank sensor. Do you have a scan tool to check for codes and read cam/crank sensor data? Matt


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Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: B1arno] #1516376
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This brings up an interesting question. I've never experienced a fuel delivery problem in an injected vehicle. Does it differ from a carburated vehicle? Fuel problems I've experienced in the past have kind of sputtered and then died. This was like I turned the key off. Does injection sputter, or does it just go dead?




Port injected vehicles will feel like they just died. It takes full fuel pressure to open the injectors.

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This brings up an interesting question. I've never experienced a fuel delivery problem in an injected vehicle. Does it differ from a carburated vehicle? Fuel problems I've experienced in the past have kind of sputtered and then died. This was like I turned the key off. Does injection sputter, or does it just go dead?




Port injected vehicles will feel like they just died. It takes full fuel pressure to open the injectors.




Fuel pressure does not open injectors...electrical current flow does. Because this vehicle starts right back up,I'm not sure it's fuel pressure(if it was it would require extended crank time to build pressure again) My thoughts go with the dirty throttle body(both times it acted up was in a closed throttle position)my second guess would go with the crank sensor...a scan tool capable of watching data at the time of failure will be helpful here. Good luck with it

Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: Wicked49670dart] #1516378
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So from your post, acts like the key is just turn off while driving. Most of the time a fuel pump will act as if you are running out of fuel, from what you described sounds like a crank sensor. Do you have a scan tool to check for codes and read cam/crank sensor data? Matt




I do not have a sacan tool but I think I can borrow one. I've had bad cam sensors show up with the key on/off trick and I'm assuming a bad crank sensor would show up there too. Could one of them just not be "bad enough" to show up.

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I'll also do a quick cleaning of the throttle body today.
Thanks everyone for the input!

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My 2005 Hemi Ram has twice now died at an odd time. The first one was at 35mph and I lifted off the gas to coast toward a stop light. It was like I turned the key off. I threw it in neutral and restarted it no problem. It ran fine for the last two months. This morning I was driving down a winding road at about 25mph and I lift off the gas to slow for a corner and was I surprised to have virtually no steering and no brakes to make the corner! I muscled the truck around the corner, slapped it into neutral, and restarted the truck no problem. It ran fine the rest of today. I did the key on/off/on thing and no codes come up. Any ideas? It was pretty scary this morning almost going head on into oncoming traffic.




Did you just top off the gas tank?

Ran into a similar issue with my wife's 05 Ram, but it was right after a fill the tank up completely top off.

It was the solenoid that vents the tank being stuck open. Gas would slosh up it and drown out the engine. New solenoid fixed it, under warranty and I had to point it out to them. I believe there is a TSB on it, but it's been a few years.


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Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: B1arno] #1516381
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Intermittent problems are tuff to find, I would check the crank sensor and its wiring. Make sure there's no corrosion, road dirt/mud in connector, make sure sensor is mounted correctly. You can lightly tap on crank sensor with the engine running and see if the engine stalls. Matt


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Re: 2005 Hemi Ram stalling at speed [Re: sreinheimer] #1516382
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check and see if the throttle body is dirty and clean it. also check trans fluid level





This is what you want to do. It sounds like a dirty throttle body as you say it stalls when you let off the gas. And check the trans fluid in nuetral and not Park. The 45 and 545RFE's can stall if trans fluid it to low because the fluid on that trans holds the lock-up converter off and if it gets low on fluid I have seen them partially lock the converter and stall the eng. These lock-ups work a little different then the other Mopar trannys as on the 45 and 545RFE trannys the fluid pushes the lock-up converter off. When it locks up it will change the fluid direction and let the lock-up clutch engage which can happen when low on trans fluid as it may not have enough fluid there to hold the converter off if low on fluid and it will be just like letting the clutch out on a stick car when stopped and stall the eng. Ron

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It was not right after filling the tank. It was at about 3/4. I checked the trans fluid today and it is perfect. Back to the throttle body. haven't had a chance to clean it yet. Ran fine all day today.
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My buddy had the same issue with his 2004 Hemi - Long story but it ended up being the computer.

He's been a mechanic for 24 years and spent alot of time trying to figure it out but it took a dealer tech to find the problem







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