Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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I'm not really sure? But....
I went to brewers and they hooked me up with a new E body 18 spline. Ready to go for $1,800 can't beat that. No tax, core, or shipping. They can tell you what is what.
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
[Re: Silverbullet2]
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Well the Faceplate is a much more streetable modification than Pro-Shift gears having driven both types.My Richmond 5-Speed is faceplated and it drives OK on the street.You can still get the big 308 bearing made in America but it is rather expensive.For the rebuild I would contact Jamie Passon over at Passon Performance for all the top quality rebuild parts and some world class advice the 833 transmission.I always used the steel forks from the later model units and cut the detent pin off.I prefer Mcleod clutches and they do make racing style discs but some of the friction materials don't come back once you smoke them. Here is a pic of my Faceplate internals.As you can see they replace the syncronizer assemblies with a Dog and ring setup. Gus 
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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11/12/08 09:45 PM
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There is such a huge window to hit the gear it hardly even clashes like a slick or Pro-shift unit.I got tired of constantly replacing the 3-4 slider and dressing my gears I just bit the bullet on the 5-speed and got it done right the first time.They are doing faceplate mods third and fourth for the 833 now but first and second are still an issue because of the reverse gear being part of the slider. Gus another pic 
64 Plymouth Savoy
493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow
5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
[Re: Silverbullet2]
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11/13/08 11:52 AM
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We have new steel 1/2 and 3/4 forks that are a direct replacements for the brass forks.
No modifications are necessary and they fit the holders much better than the over drive forks.
$48.55 for the 1/2 fork
$23.72 for the 3/4 fork
1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X
1967 Satellite 383 4speed
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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I agree with JohnRR the stock trans for a street car is fine. If you need bearings or parts I have personally used Brewers and have zero complaints. The same with Jamie Passon and his stuff too. Assuming you have a Solid trans & Shifter, good synchros, clean shifter, shift rods not worn out. etc, for the trans to shift right you need these things right. 1. Properly adjusted clutch 2. Properly adjusted shifter 3. Correct Trans fluid. I mix my own Trans Fluid but Jamie makes some bang up stuff now.  Worth the money from everyone I have talked to that has used it.
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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We have new steel 1/2 and 3/4 forks that are a direct replacements for the brass forks.
No modifications are necessary and they fit the holders much better than the over drive forks.
$48.55 for the 1/2 fork
$23.72 for the 3/4 fork
Why the huge price difference between the 2 forks ?
I modified the OD forks and used them , didn't notice that they were loose in the shift levers ??
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
[Re: domingo]
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11/13/08 03:58 PM
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The 3/4 fork fits other applications so more were made so we got a better pricing on them.
The 1/2 fork got some additional attention in adding the third pad on them so there was some extra expense to have them made.
The difference in the fit in the holder is noticeable when you compare the two side by side.
The new ones are supported the full length of the holder so that may be the difference.
We were having a hard time finding od forks that were good and finding them at a reasonable price,
so we stepped up and had them made. Not to replace anyone else's product, more to give people another option.
1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X
1967 Satellite 383 4speed
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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11/13/08 04:03 PM
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The 3/4 fork fits other applications so more were made so we got a better pricing on them.
The 1/2 fork got some additional attention in adding the third pad on them so there was some extra expense to have them made.
The difference in the fit in the holder is noticeable when you compare the two side by side.
The new ones are supported the full length of the holder so that may be the difference.
We were having a hard time finding od forks that were good and finding them at a reasonable price,
so we stepped up and had them made. Not to replace anyone else's product, more to give people another option.
Why do they have to be the OD forks? The interlocking lever design came out in 1970 5 years before the first OD. Aren't the forks the same between the 75 and up OD and 70 and up non-OD interlocking lever design? 
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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11/13/08 04:56 PM
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You are right, I have a habit of calling them the od style fork.
I should be calling them the scissors interlock style fork.
1969 Coronet R/T Y2 Y2 P6X X9 V8X
1967 Satellite 383 4speed
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Re: 18 spline 4 speed recomendations?
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11/14/08 10:05 AM
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You are right, I have a habit of calling them the od style fork.
I should be calling them the scissors interlock style fork.
Thanks... I was just curious b/c I put together my 1969 18 spline A-body custom 4-speed and I didn't use the OD forks, but I did use the steel forks and cut the nipple off. It works great... I just assumed they are all the same...
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