Re: Evaporative leak on 2000 Ram.Any Dodge techs out there?
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08/29/13 04:14 PM
08/29/13 04:14 PM
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John_Kunkel
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New gas cap fixed that on my '98 Ram. Smearing the rubber seal on the cap with Vaseline fixed it for a while but not long.
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Re: Evaporative leak on 2000 Ram.Any Dodge techs out there?
[Re: 70sixpkrt]
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08/30/13 03:05 PM
08/30/13 03:05 PM
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Al_Alguire
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Does this dealership have an know how to use a smoke machine? It really is the best/only way to identify Evap leaks. As for having a bad harness, well this is an electrical system and we always explain that to our customers. It can always be a mechanical or electrical issue. Not sure it would need an entire new harness, other than it will save labor hours to replace it all rather than isolate the issue and repair it. My suggestion is find a better place to take your truck to for repairs. Dealerships want easy profitable repairs, not necessarily the time consuming diagnostic and electrical repair stuff. BTW the wiggle test is pretty common diagnostic approach these days. You would be surprised how often it works.
Oh yeah FWIW the last one we had actually had a crack in a rubber grommet that was the issue. The evap line had a rubber connection from the one of the plastic lines that had dried out and cracked. We found it with a smoke machine. After it had been to a shop without one that just kept throwing parts at it. A lot of shop tend the throw parts at evap leaks because they don't want to invest in a smoke machine.
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Re: Evaporative leak on 2000 Ram.Any Dodge techs out there?
[Re: 70sixpkrt]
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08/30/13 08:17 PM
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poboyengineering
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wiggling the wires and getting a failure means you have a bad connection or a broken wire. corrosion/fretting/failed crimp, etc...shouldn't be too hard to find. I don't have an FSM handy...what do these circuits control?
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Re: Evaporative leak on 2000 Ram.Any Dodge techs out there?
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08/31/13 12:50 PM
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therocks
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Corossion and broken wires are common especially here.I dont know how many GM headlights Ive fixed because of crappy soldered connections in the front.I guess they figure it was good enough to get out of warranty so why worry about it.Last front harness I did on a Sunfire cost was almost 600 bucks.Plus mark up and labor.Rocky
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Re: Evaporative leak on 2000 Ram.Any Dodge techs out there?
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09/07/13 01:38 PM
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I'm dropping off my truck to my mechanic (not dealership) on Monday. He is also stumped. The dealership sounds like they are done with me. They said it is in the wiring harness and too time consuming.
No doubt it will take some time to find the problem. The code you have now is not the same as you started with. So it sounds to me like the original problem is fixed and now you have another problem. The fix only take 5 minutes to correct. The problem is most people don't want to pay for the time to get to the root cause. Its obvious they have isolated the bad circuit. You have to commit to the time it may take to get to the gremlin.
In our shops its straight time on these problems. And when the customer tells me about all the hands that have already tried to fix it I inform them it may even take more time. Most often these problems have several causes. The original root cause and all the others from people working on it that have no business or smarts to comprehend the correct repair procedure. ![](/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/Twocents.gif)
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