Evaporative leak on 2000 Ram.Any Dodge techs out there?

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They sad they can wiggle the harness and the engine light will go on and off.

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Total and complete bullsh!t story. Typical dealership. A check engine light will only go off when the proper erase procedure is done.

Find another fuel station: 9 times out of ten switching fuel will give a check engine light. You are getting stale fuel from somewhere.

By the way, emissions may be covered for lifetime on this truck. Check with 1-800 Dodge to confirm. None of this should be costing you a cent.

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I'm dropping off my truck to my mechanic (not dealership) on Monday. He is also stumped. The dealership sounds like they are done with me. They said it is in the wiring harness and too time consuming.

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No doubt it will take some time to find the problem. The code you have now is not the same as you started with. So it sounds to me like the original problem is fixed and now you have another problem. The fix only take 5 minutes to correct. The problem is most people don't want to pay for the time to get to the root cause. Its obvious they have isolated the bad circuit. You have to commit to the time it may take to get to the gremlin.

In our shops its straight time on these problems. And when the customer tells me about all the hands that have already tried to fix it I inform them it may even take more time. Most often these problems have several causes. The original root cause and all the others from people working on it that have no business or smarts to comprehend the correct repair procedure.

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P0443 is a CIRCUIT prob... not an evap system prob..... but keep trying those different gas stations!

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No, no, keep throwing money at the problem.

Why bother trying the simple stuff first?

Similar answer that I gave has been posted by Members over at Dodgeforum.com. Code goes away after driving for awhile. One guy over-filled his tank and got the same code-it went away after awhile. Look it up.

What's the shop bill on this thing so far?

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The dealership bill is $1400

Gawd, I feel ill just seeing that number.

which I am going to call up Dodge Customer Service to see if they can help me out since it pertains to the Emission.

Thanks, I really appreciate you taking my suggestion. When I had some small leak codes on my '01 Ram the dealership smoke tested the whole system and didn't charge me anything. They came right out and said that emissions were covered after the normal warranty ran out.

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This is what the dealership said now. This is after they replaced leak detection pump, duty purge solenoid, all hoses from the vapor canister to leak dection pump, gas cap, and both vapor canisters. I don't know if they are blowing smoke up my azz now just to get rid of me.

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They found high resistance (open circuit) when wiggled at circuit k52?

Why change the harness? No need to spend that kind of cash. If the problem is the wiring and not because of a loose or backed out pin in a connector why in the world wouldn't they just over lay a wire. That's what I was taught in the basic electrical classes years ago by Chrysler.

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[They found high resistance (open circuit) when wiggled at circuit k52?

Why change the harness? No need to spend that kind of cash. If the problem is the wiring and not because of a loose or backed out pin in a connector why in the world wouldn't they just over lay a wire. That's what I was taught in the basic electrical classes years ago by Chrysler. /quote]

I think they just don't want tp spend the time anymore. I have been there 3 times in the last 3 weeks. I think they are getting tired of me and are trying to shoo me away.

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The dealership bill is $1400

Gawd, I feel ill just seeing that number.

which I am going to call up Dodge Customer Service to see if they can help me out since it pertains to the Emission.

Thanks, I really appreciate you taking my suggestion. When I had some small leak codes on my '01 Ram the dealership smoke tested the whole system and didn't charge me anything. They came right out and said that emissions were covered after the normal warranty ran out.

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And, here's what you should try, but this is just me and only my opinion:

Find another fuel station that has alot of turnover and go get yourself a full tank of 89. Go home, if you have a code reader erase your code. If not, borrow one. Unhook your battery cables overnight, plan a nice long highway trip, hook 'em back up and go. Fill your tank again from the same pump, and keep drivin'. If the code comes back just erase it and keep driving. Don't unhook the battery again, just keep putting the miles on and run the same fuel.

It can take a few tanks of fuel to do this while the computer re-learns what's happening. If all goes well that code will go away and leave you alone. Go back to 87 octane and everything should be fine.

I've been around the block with my 2001 Ram on small and large leak codes, and it always goes away. You just have to give it time and the computers don't leave any room for error if you get sh!t fuel, which in this day and age happens alot.

PM me if you like, I'd like to know how you make out. Hope this helps you.

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The dealership bill is $1400

Gawd, I feel ill just seeing that number.

which I am going to call up Dodge Customer Service to see if they can help me out since it pertains to the Emission.

Thanks, I really appreciate you taking my suggestion. When I had some small leak codes on my '01 Ram the dealership smoke tested the whole system and didn't charge me anything. They came right out and said that emissions were covered after the normal warranty ran out.

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And, here's what you should try, but this is just me and only my opinion:

Find another fuel station that has alot of turnover and go get yourself a full tank of 89. Go home, if you have a code reader erase your code. If not, borrow one. Unhook your battery cables overnight, plan a nice long highway trip, hook 'em back up and go. Fill your tank again from the same pump, and keep drivin'. If the code comes back just erase it and keep driving. Don't unhook the battery again, just keep putting the miles on and run the same fuel.

It can take a few tanks of fuel to do this while the computer re-learns what's happening. If all goes well that code will go away and leave you alone. Go back to 87 octane and everything should be fine.

I've been around the block with my 2001 Ram on small and large leak codes, and it always goes away. You just have to give it time and the computers don't leave any room for error if you get sh!t fuel, which in this day and age happens alot.

PM me if you like, I'd like to know how you make out. Hope this helps you.

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I could see that happening with say, a mis-fire code, but how in the world does quality or octane of gas have anything to do with a system that puts vacuum on a fuel tank?

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