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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488979
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Huh I bet the ones you're bolting on in the bottom photo won.




Nope... there is going to be some upsetting of the apple cart very soon.

Can't release any results yet, but I can say that with the winning tire the Satellite averaged over 1.2 g's.


Wow! I was hoping they would test some RA1's and R888's just because. I really like my RA1's but want to know how they stack up to some 200 tw tires. But if you were hitting 1.2's, then I guess its probably a non issue.


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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: 72Swinger] #1488980
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It drifts ok too...

Drift Snippet - Taxi

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488981
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I'm glad to have you waving the Mopar flag Kevin. I think it is just awesome how well that Taxi runs. Will you ever give up what you're running suspension wise? And are you planning to put a 6.4 in it?


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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: 72Swinger] #1488982
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Will you ever give up what you're running suspension wise? And are you planning to put a 6.4 in it?




No reason to switch from torsion bars and leaf springs. The feedback from the Tire Rack test driver will second my opinion, more on that in the video when it's released.

Maybe... we'll see what happens this winter. It's coming back in the spring with more power and less weight for sure. Probably running a 295 all the way around as well.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488983
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What I meant was give up the specs lol. I have no intentions of giving up my stock suspension format either. And I also wanna come back next spring with more power and less weight and try to make it to the Goodguys show in Loveland CO. I am just curious what T-bars you are using as Im sure the rest is Hotchkis. You alignment specs would be cool to know as well, if that is proprietary info I understand.


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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: 72Swinger] #1488984
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What I meant was give up the specs lol. I have no intentions of giving up my stock suspension format either. And I also wanna come back next spring with more power and less weight and try to make it to the Goodguys show in Loveland CO. I am just curious what T-bars you are using as Im sure the rest is Hotchkis. You alignment specs would be cool to know as well, if that is proprietary info I understand.




I've had a couple people ask about all the specs. I'll try to start a new topic with the details. Nothing secret, that's for sure.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488985
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Or maybe post it in the registery pinned at the top of the forum...

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: TC@HP2] #1488986
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Would you consider your Hawk pads as track only application and would use a different set of pads in town cruising and leave the Hawks for the high speed driving events at the tracks?

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: PHJ426] #1488987
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Would you consider your Hawk pads as track only application and would use a different set of pads in town cruising and leave the Hawks for the high speed driving events at the tracks?




I just leave them on and have no problems in town. If you are anal about your wheels you will want to change them out.

If you do change them, change pads and rotors as a set. I believe Hawk has some details on their site about pads needing time to bed themselves into the rotors.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488988
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Would you consider your Hawk pads as track only application and would use a different set of pads in town cruising and leave the Hawks for the high speed driving events at the tracks?




I just leave them on and have no problems in town. If you are anal about your wheels you will want to change them out.

If you do change them, change pads and rotors as a set. I believe Hawk has some details on their site about pads needing time to bed themselves into the rotors.


Damn, I ran Hawk HP-plus at the track and the dust was to much on the street so OE's are back on. Didnt know about the rotor thing. Guess I could try to find some cheaper china SRT rotors for the street.


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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: 72Swinger] #1488989
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The chrome wheels used for testing had to be wiped down after every 4 laps to give you an idea about how much they dust.

My aluminum Weld Wheels will actually rust after an open track event if you don't clean them right away.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: 72Swinger] #1488990
08/30/13 06:18 PM
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You need ducted air on the rotors.
Preferably all 4

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: ThermoQuad] #1488991
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Cool stuff Kevin, thanks for sharing!

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: AndyF] #1488992
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The Viper on 11.75 front system works pretty well when coupled with DoctorDiff's rear disc brake setup. The brake bias should be fairly decent for a B-body car also.

One thing that would've made that kit even better is if I'd had gone ahead and tooled up a 1.25 thick version of the 11.75 rotor. Then there would've been more rotor mass and we could've eliminated the pad spacers. But there wasn't enough money in the tooling budget to do that.

Cass has developed some additional options over the past few years. He was even exploring the possibility of a low cost "Viper" clone caliper which would be much less expensive.




FYI I'm using the 73 C-Body rotor/spindle and Viper calipers and it's 1 1/4" thick. Works good no spacers required. Currently using EBC yellow stuff pads up front and what ever Cass provided with his rear disc kit. I'm going to change out the rear pads to "yellow stuff" pad as well because when the pads get hot the rear pads do not work so well and when cold visa versa.( not a good match! )

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: brads70] #1488993
09/01/13 09:22 PM
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I actually have a new front brake kit that uses 11.75" x 1.25" C-body rotors and Viper calipers on B/E body drum knuckles.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488994
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I've had a couple people ask about all the specs. I'll try to start a new topic with the details. Nothing secret, that's for sure.




Should be my old 1.18 Bars right?

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1488995
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I've had a couple people ask about all the specs. I'll try to start a new topic with the details. Nothing secret, that's for sure.




Should be my old 1.18 Bars right?




Nope, still 1.06 this year. Couple things didn't get done as planned.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Consulier] #1488996
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Oh man, don't let the "big bar" guys find out we can get Mopars to handle this well on such "small" bars. Their entire universe may come undone.....

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1488997
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IT's all about the formula. I get the same roll couple with .96 T-bars and a 1.25 solid sway bar as I do with 1.22 t-bars and 1.125 solid sway bars. Throw some tubular sway bar calculations in there I might be able to run what appears to be some massive sized components without upsetting the balance.

Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions [Re: AlexP] #1488998
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I work for Hawk. We make a pad for the 73 caliper.




Do you have any part numbers for this?




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