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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: Rapom65]
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08/28/13 10:32 AM
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If they are inbound, then you might as well play with them. IMO, I don't think you will notice a a difference with them. In street driving, none, in autocross, none, in heavy rood course lapping, maybe if you're out for 15-20 minutes at a time, but ther may be other ways to achieve those results.
Back in my oval track days, we would put 50 hard, short track laps on the brakes using the stock, single pot, factory piston design. By the end of that run, the pedal was getting soft but we never boiled the fluid. I did run Red Devil fluid with the highest boiling point I could afford. I knew of another guy running a thin stainless steel shim between the pad and caliper. However, everybody's braking power was declining at a similar rate, so success in the pack was more dependant upon a driver's ability to adapt to the reduced braking capability than having a much improved system.
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: Rapom65]
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08/29/13 12:21 AM
08/29/13 12:21 AM
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The green brick is a shining example of what 11.75 brakes can take. Weight is probably the biggest factor of all.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: Rapom65]
#1488967
08/29/13 10:59 AM
08/29/13 10:59 AM
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Bitopia
jcc
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What I really am is $ limited. Motor has been built and hanging on a stand for a couple of years while I pecked away at modifying the suspension and chassis. Stuck with 15 inch wheels and tires as I finish the rest of the car. 17 or bigger wheel/tire package is way off in the future, if ever as it looks like the job prospect might have evaporated tonight. 
Regardless of the money, if you can afford to get the track, as Mitch and others have mentioned numerous times, the driver outweighs nearly every performance part on the car, and the best thing is he can improve immensely, where the rest of the car can only improve slightly from track time. Just lower your immediate goals enough to start getting seat time, the rest will come later, you can even learn a lot with a slant six. Re watch the Bunch video, even with the big hemi, etc, the little cars could hang with him in the corners. 
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: fury413rb]
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08/29/13 11:03 AM
08/29/13 11:03 AM
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Houston, Tx
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I work for Hawk. We make a pad for the 73 caliper.
Do you have any part numbers for this?
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: PHJ426]
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08/29/13 12:16 PM
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Geez Kevin,
You are probably one of the top drivers I know, so it might be a case of the driver being better than the brakes here.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: PHJ426]
#1488972
08/29/13 12:19 PM
08/29/13 12:19 PM
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USA
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Kevin,
Is that a B body or C body 11.75" disc, slotted and dimpled from which vendor?
What pads are you running on the front doing that kind of stopping? What size M/C, rear brakes?
B body disc, no slots or dimples. These are actually the one's Eberg used to sell, so not sure who made them. Just get an American made rotor from the parts store and you'll be fine.
I run Hawk HT-10's in front, the Eberg 1" (I think) master and Dr. Diff Cobra conversion in the rear with Hawk Blue pads.
If you don't like brake dust, don't use my pad specs. If you don't like to warm the brakes first before using them at an event, don't use my pad specs. I will say that I have well over 100 autocross runs and a couple track day on the pads and they have at least 50% life left in them.
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: Supercuda]
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08/29/13 12:20 PM
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Geez Kevin,
You are probably one of the top drivers I know, so it might be a case of the driver being better than the brakes here.
Just did a 2 day tire test at Tire Rack and we used their test driver. Same results, he loved the brakes.
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: Consulier]
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08/29/13 12:44 PM
08/29/13 12:44 PM
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72Swinger
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Huh I bet the ones you're bolting on in the bottom photo won. I love to see that 4 door killin those PT guys. That seriously warms my heart and if I could I would give you a big hug, or maybe just settle for a high five lol, no homo, anyway, way to fricken go mang!
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Optimizing 11.75 disk questions
[Re: 72Swinger]
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08/29/13 02:51 PM
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Huh I bet the ones you're bolting on in the bottom photo won.
Nope... there is going to be some upsetting of the apple cart very soon.
Can't release any results yet, but I can say that with the winning tire the Satellite averaged over 1.2 g's.
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