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Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? #1472372 07/23/13 12:20 AM 07/23/13 12:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD R rkh17 OP member
rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Looking at my first Hurst shifter. It's mated to an A833 on my 1974 Challenger. Looks like the reverse lever is bent to me. Compared it to as many pics on the net I could find, but since this is my first one I'm looking for confirmation. Also, I took the clip off the reverse rod at the shifter lever and I'm not able to pull the rod out of the lever. Should this come right out? Larger picture, I'm having issues with the shift getting stuck in second gear. I'm able to reset and align all the levels and it frees up and I can drive the car again for a bit... Thanks, -Rob 7786583-photo(14).JPG (81 downloads) Last edited by rkh17; 07/23/13 12:22 AM. RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472373 07/23/13 12:31 AM 07/23/13 12:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,813 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,813 A collage of whims	Yeah, that lever does look bent; can't recall a Hurst shifter lever at the tower end where the bends viewed that way were not all at 90 degrees. Had an 833 that would jam up similar to yours: I loosened the side cover bolts, pushed the side cover upwards with a prybar and re-tightened the bolts, and that fixed it.

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: topside] #1472374 07/23/13 09:59 AM 07/23/13 09:59 AM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Am I going to be able to bend that back while it's still on the car? As mentioned in the initial post, I can't seem to get the rod off the level after taking out the clip. Any tricks to this? Seems like it should just pull out. Wondering if the bend is preventing it... Thanks, -Rob RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472375 07/23/13 11:00 AM 07/23/13 11:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp S Sixpak master
Sixpak master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,840 The Swamp	I'd pull the shifter, disassemble, clean, grease, and straighten out that lever. Take pictures of the different levers and plates and their orientation as they come out during dis-assembly. They are pretty easy to do. You can also add a washer or two in the stack thru the large pin that everything pivots on to help remove some of the sideways slop in the gate.

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: Sixpak] #1472376 07/23/13 12:53 PM 07/23/13 12:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,943 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,943 Grand Prairie,Texas	Looks like the lever was bent to make the shift rod work.

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: stumpy] #1472377 07/23/13 12:58 PM 07/23/13 12:58 PM
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64dodge572 master 6 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,285 Ohio	Looks like an A/B shifter not an E. E will have 7180 on reverse arm (the one that is bent). A/B will have 6353. Brewers Performance Inc. 4-speed transmission and parts specialists PH 937-947-4416 or 937-698-4259 FAX 937-947-4419 www.brewersperformance.com

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472378 07/23/13 01:22 PM 07/23/13 01:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	there is a burr of some sort hanging up the rod from coming out of the lever or a part of the clip that can't be made out in that blurry picture. Either way pull the shifter out of the car and go from there .

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: JohnRR] #1472379 07/23/13 02:04 PM 07/23/13 02:04 PM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Here's a slightly better picture of the debacle... 7787090-hurst.JPG (73 downloads) RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472380 07/23/13 02:05 PM 07/23/13 02:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	You should be able to put a long flat blade screw driver in there and just pop it out .

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472381 07/23/13 03:02 PM 07/23/13 03:02 PM
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Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: Here's a slightly better picture of the debacle... Not really, you probably need to go with decaf. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472382 07/23/13 04:40 PM 07/23/13 04:40 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca M mikeysmopars top fuel
mikeysmopars top fuel M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,608 fresno ca	That looks like the A&B body shifter E Body has a dogleg on the outside lever Founder and CEO of the Central Valley Mopar Drag Pack

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: Supercuda] #1472383 07/23/13 05:01 PM 07/23/13 05:01 PM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Quote: Quote: Here's a slightly better picture of the debacle... Not really, you probably need to go with decaf. lol - I already drink decaf RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: 64dodge572] #1472384 07/23/13 11:08 PM 07/23/13 11:08 PM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Quote: Looks like an A/B shifter not an E. E will have 7180 on reverse arm (the one that is bent). A/B will have 6353. Looks like the mystery is starting to unfold. Reverse lever says 6353.. so I have an A/B body shifter on my E body... Last edited by rkh17; 07/24/13 06:06 PM. RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472385 07/24/13 01:06 AM 07/24/13 01:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,043 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: Looks like an A/B shifter not an E. E will have 7180 on reverse arm (the one that is bent). A/B will have 6353. Looks like the mystery is starting to unfold. Reverse level says 6353.. so I have an A/B body shifter on my E body... that is not why it wouldn't come apart.

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: JohnRR] #1472386 07/24/13 06:13 PM 07/24/13 06:13 PM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Yes came apart pretty easily with a flat head driver as you suggested. RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472387 08/10/13 05:13 PM 08/10/13 05:13 PM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	updated photo showing progress Replaced the shifter with a proper e-body shifter Replaced the Reverse rod and swivel. Was bent like the R shift lever All new clips and used washers to remove some of the play. Thanks to Dan @ Brewers for all his help on this. So now 1-2, 3-4 all work fine, but I can't seem to find Reverse on the new shifter. I have the proper hurst alignment tool and I've used that to set the linkage. Any suggestions for finding Reverse? I'm just trying to shift while in the car while it's up on the lift. Thanks, -Rob 7809570-newshift3.JPG (39 downloads) RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472388 08/10/13 05:15 PM 08/10/13 05:15 PM
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rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Another shot from the side of the new shifter 7809571-newshift4.JPG (54 downloads) RobH -- 72 Plymouth Duster 360 73 Dodge Charger SE 318 74 Dodge Challenger 340-4 74 Dodge Challenger 440

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472389 08/10/13 09:59 PM 08/10/13 09:59 PM
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a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	Disconnect the linkage and see if you can get reverse by moving the trans lever with a wrench. If you can, put both shifter and trans in reverse and adjust to that. I can't afford this. mark

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: a12superbee] #1472390 08/10/13 11:28 PM 08/10/13 11:28 PM
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD R rkh17 OP member
rkh17 OP member R Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 36 MD	Quote: Disconnect the linkage and see if you can get reverse by moving the trans lever with a wrench. If you can, put both shifter and trans in reverse and adjust to that. By "linkage" I'm assuming you mean the reverse rod. I can move the reverse trans lever with the linkage (reverse rod) attached. The 1-2 and 3-4 rods are in neutral position. I move the R rod manually with my hand and it goes into reverse. Just can't seem to do the same from the shifter in the car. It feels like there is no path to R in the shifter. I'm sure it's there but something is blocking... Last edited by rkh17; 08/10/13 11:42 PM.

Re: Hurst Shifter - Bent Lever? [Re: rkh17] #1472391 08/11/13 12:40 AM 08/11/13 12:40 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado A a12superbee master
a12superbee master A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 6,301 colorado	Both both in reverse and make sure the rod is adjusted properly. You mentioned you had the tool to line up the box, maybe your trans needs a little bit more or less. I can't afford this. mark

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