Whats involved to convert a Magnum to a carburator?
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Im having some issues with my 92 Dakota. 5.2 Auto, MPFI
It keeps throwing code 11, and will just shut off ignition power at random. Sometimes multiple timea a day, sometimes no issues for a week.
Its getting to the point I am not confident in driving it 140 miles each day.
I have changed the CPS about 4 months ago when the new trans went in, and all was fine until about 2 months ago when this started. (it happended to start the day after a waterpump change)
I originally thought maybe a wire got pinched, or insulation cracked during the swap, but there are no signs of this after several close inspections.
I am going to have a timing chain replaced, it has 140K on the clock. And just for poops, and giggles, may even stick a new CPS on it.
IF this doesnt solve the issue, I want to remove the injection, and go to a carb.
What do i need other than the following:
Carb style manifold
Carb
Distributor (most likely going to go Pertronix) Looking at the flamethrower III dizzy for an LA motor, is this the one I want to lose the computer control?
Ignition (see distributor)
Fuel pressure regulator with return line.
Now I'm not sure what to do about the 518 OD trans. I think the 92 is still a hydraulic lockup, so I only need to control the OD shift.
Can I retain the computer for this, or will I need to go with a system like the PATC vacuum switch, and pressure switch like would be used on a standard 727 to 518 swap?
Anything else I may be forgetting, or should change?
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Re: Whats involved to convert a Magnum to a carburator?
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I have tried swapping in a new MP performance computer.
It makes the issue even worse.
I need to have this truck be reliable, I'm disabled, and cant be getting stranded on the side of the road at the trucks whim.
I will sacrifice a few mileage points to gain reliability.
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Re: Whats involved to convert a Magnum to a carburator?
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Have you checked the main harness near the battery? There's a splice in there that is notorious for failing at the worst moment. Very common on those trucks. Sorry I can't be more specific but if you search the threads using the google feature, you should be able to find something.
Other things to check:
1. How old is the battery? 2. TPS and IAS (?) sensors 3. Fuel pump
I totally sympathize. I have a 93 5.2l that plays games too. One time it did it at a stoplight just after I bought a truckload of parts from John_RR as I was getting on the Mass Pike! Boy, was the guy behind me pissed! Did all of the above and just did a water pump. I still don't trust it, but I love my '93. Someday hope to a total restoration because I am sick of doing cars!
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Re: Whats involved to convert a Magnum to a carburator?
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I'd like to know too!
Does the Magnum coil test the same at the older cylinder ones?
What was the symptom(s) of a coil failure?
It was 90 here today, my truck died twice, only to restart a short time later. I believe the coil is the original and has 158K on it.
Sorry to hp383 for hijacking your post
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Re: Whats involved to convert a Magnum to a carburator?
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Agree that its a ton of work for little gain.
As far as a lot of work for the little bit of gain, I am not doing this to gain any performance, or power. In fact I fully expect to lose some of each, and maybe even a point or two in MPG.
But IF the thing acts up on me again, and keeps crapping out CPS units, I have to do something to make it a reliable driver.
I have spent to much to just toss it aside, or sell it down the road.
It has new slotted and drilled rotors, new calipers, new pads, new drums, new rear shoes, new wheel cylinders, new brake lines, new fuel pump, new wheels, new tires, new shocks on all corners, new transmission, new higher stall converter, new rack and pinion steering, new tie-rods, a fresh alignment, not to mention the lower intake gasket fixed, new injector seals, the typical tune up items, plugs, wires, cap rotor and a few others I'm sure I forgot.
So losing the computer controlled ignition would be a better option financially than trying to sell a 92 Dakota with a new driveline, and upgraded/replaced mechanical items that will die on you unexpectedly, and starting over.
Basically I'm in to deep to toss it away now. My hope was after the upgrades to have a decent little driver that would last me 50-70K without any major issues.
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