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P-V clearance with MP 590? DELETED #1444712 05/30/13 11:55 AM 05/30/13 11:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI 1 11secondC OP mopar
11secondC OP mopar 1 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI	Post deleted by 11secondC

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444713 05/30/13 12:05 PM 05/30/13 12:05 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Put a test spring on the intake and the exhaust and test your own set up... use a dial indicator and at full lift push down on the rocker and measure the distance

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1444714 05/30/13 12:39 PM 05/30/13 12:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI 1 11secondC OP mopar
11secondC OP mopar 1 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI	Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so...

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444715 05/30/13 01:10 PM 05/30/13 01:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so... Do what you want..... last time I try to help you.. plus you better tell them what ratio rockers

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444716 05/30/13 01:21 PM 05/30/13 01:21 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,505 TN S SCATPACK 1 pro stock
SCATPACK 1 pro stock S Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,505 TN	Quote: Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so... Wow what a jerk of response! I doubt you will get any info or a response from anyone else on this board. Mike is very well thought of by everyone on here. 7724825-440SSoldschool.JPG (59 downloads) Last edited by SCATPACK 1; 05/30/13 01:23 PM. Old Geezer Racing

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444717 05/30/13 02:15 PM 05/30/13 02:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so... Maybe you should borrow the tools to do so , unless someone has your exact combination with everything machined exactly the same it's a guess at best and I would NOT trust a guess . How was that for less than nothing ?

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: SCATPACK 1] #1444718 05/30/13 02:16 PM 05/30/13 02:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo R rt66jim master
rt66jim master R Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,002 Joplin, Mo	Quote: Quote: Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so... Wow what a jerk of response! I doubt you will get any info or a response from anyone else on this board. Mike is very well thought of by everyone on here. X2

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444719 05/30/13 02:22 PM 05/30/13 02:22 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	Quote: Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so... Too funny..........go ahead and run it you`ll be fine ESPECIALLY above 8000 rpm`s............let us know how it works for ya. Born in 76 so you must know everything...... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: rt66jim] #1444720 05/30/13 02:25 PM 05/30/13 02:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn. Q quickd100 master
quickd100 master Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,392 nielsville, minn.	Yep the only way you'll know for sure is to use checker springs and a degree wheel and a dial indicator. Moving the installed centerline shifts your P/V clearance also. Anyone can tell you sure it will fit, but without checking it correctly you could eaily loose a motor or extensively damage it. If you can't do it yourself find a friend or a shop that can. Dave

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: Thumperdart] #1444721 05/30/13 02:26 PM 05/30/13 02:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI 1 11secondC OP mopar
11secondC OP mopar 1 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI	The clique's on here are funny. About what I expected, understandable since my screenname isn't bbodybob or abodyjoe...

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444722 05/30/13 02:28 PM 05/30/13 02:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	ATTITUDE pal..............plain amd simple.......... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444723 05/30/13 02:30 PM 05/30/13 02:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,162 s e mich ro23car super stock
ro23car super stock Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,162 s e mich	Quote: Uh, thanks for nothing? I wouldn't have asked the question if I had the tools to do so... thats a crappy resopnce on your part.different engines have different variables.

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444724 05/30/13 02:42 PM 05/30/13 02:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,004 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Zero deck 440 with SRP's flat-tops -6cc valve reliefs...MP 590, 75 cc Edelbrocks, Marine Fel-pro's... Anyone run into issues with the cam in @ 102-104? are you running this cam now ? if so what is it in at and what is your current piston to valve clearance? The only cliques are those that people create for themselves.

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: ro23car] #1444725 05/30/13 02:47 PM 05/30/13 02:47 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio VernMotor master
VernMotor master Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,348 Mt.Vernon ,Ohio	Well I have very close to the same combo..But not sure I want to tell you anything !!....gezz man chill out.. Now I have a lot of valve to piston clearnce.. same cam- flat top pistons. 0 deck- stock crank-stock length rods- 1.5 rockers. over .150 on both intake and exhaust . But you really should not take anyone word on this.. bad things can and will happen if it is not right..I would have to look and see what size my relieves are.cam is in at 101. heads are 72cc.

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: VernMotor] #1444726 05/30/13 02:58 PM 05/30/13 02:58 PM
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FlyFish super stock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy	What your clearance Clarence, roger Roger, whats your vector Victor.... 67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: JohnRR] #1444727 05/30/13 03:04 PM 05/30/13 03:04 PM
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11secondC OP mopar 1 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI	John...I've seen similar questions by different posters that have been asked on this board before, not necessarily mine fwiw...and it's amazing the difference in responses given depending on who posted the question. Is what it is. I completely understand the "correct" way, is to measure it and again I understand the catastrophic consequences if I get it wrong. Currently running the MP557...no idea on where I'm at, again don't have the tools to check it. Been running now 2 years...a friend has offered a nib 590 he's never ran, thought maybe I would give it a shot. Cam has been around what 30+ years, and I'm guessing someone at one time has tried running it in a zero deck motor, if it worked with a old TRW 6 pak piston, I would think it should be ok with mine...might be I'm wrong, don't know. I've actually met Mike in the pits a few years back, seemed like a nice enough guy...my apologies to him for being so curt...

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: VernMotor] #1444728 05/30/13 03:09 PM 05/30/13 03:09 PM
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11secondC OP mopar 1 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 577 Grand Rapids, MI	Quote: Well I have very close to the same combo..But not sure I want to tell you anything !!....gezz man chill out.. Now I have a lot of valve to piston clearnce.. same cam- flat top pistons. 0 deck- stock crank-stock length rods- 1.5 rockers. over .150 on both intake and exhaust . But you really should not take anyone word on this.. bad things can and will happen if it is not right..I would have to look and see what size my relieves are.cam is in at 101. heads are 72cc. Thanks, I appreciate it.

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444729 05/30/13 03:11 PM 05/30/13 03:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: The clique's on here are funny. About what I expected, understandable since my screenname isn't bbodybob or abodyjoe... Hey smart a$$ your the one asking for answers... instead of your snide remark you could have just said I dont have the equipment to do it right... there isnt any clique on here and we would have been more than happy to try and help you ... MAYBE Jamie (Vernmotors) can give you a ball park number that you'll be happy with

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1444730 05/30/13 04:39 PM 05/30/13 04:39 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,210 robin hood country deaks master
deaks master Joined: May 2004 Posts: 3,210 robin hood country	I'm not as knowledgable as Mike or some of the others on here but i used to run a .670 roller 280 at .050 dur with 6 pack pistons, 76 cc RPM's snd steel shim head gaskets and they cleared fine. I run the .590 with the same heads now but with dome pistons and felpros. I clayed the pistons on both. BTW, love your 66 Fury, you see very few 65-6 at the strip. I used to have a 66 Fury 111 with a 383. Mick 69 Dart GTS 440 mopar .590 cam, Edelbrock heads, 3200# best et 6.45, 106.78, 10.14, 132.88 mph, 1.47 60ft best 60ft 1.36

Re: P-V clearance with MP 590? [Re: 11secondC] #1444731 05/30/13 06:40 PM 05/30/13 06:40 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 427 saint paul mn. J johnzgarage mopar
johnzgarage mopar J Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 427 saint paul mn.	Quote: Zero deck 440 with SRP's flat-tops -6cc valve reliefs...MP 590, 75 cc Edelbrocks, Marine Fel-pro's... Anyone run into issues with the cam in @ 102-104? O.k. thats a SIMPLE QUESTION !!!!.....no. I have clayed out a flat top ross, zero deck , 63 cc stage6 head @ 104 1.5 rocker. Found no problems.

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