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Small block rear main studs #1422674 04/20/13 07:30 PM 04/20/13 07:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	I cant get the oil pump on because the main studs are too long.This happened on an old build and I think I just used a stock bolt but I dont want to do that this time.This is a fairly high hp combo this time.What is the best fix for this? 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: mopartuner] #1422675 04/20/13 07:32 PM 04/20/13 07:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia	Machine the cap and shorten the stud Alan Jones

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: LA360] #1422676 04/20/13 07:58 PM 04/20/13 07:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada M mopartuner OP mopar
mopartuner OP mopar M Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 614 ont,canada	I don't really have the equipment to do the machine work.........what about a arp bolt or a #8 bolt? 410 pump gas solis flat tappet cam 10.95 so far

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: mopartuner] #1422677 04/20/13 10:15 PM 04/20/13 10:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 449 Baltimore, MD 3 397STROKER super street
397STROKER super street 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 449 Baltimore, MD	I have cut the stud so that it doesn't stick out but a few threads past the nut and then grinded just enough metal off of the pump to clear. I have heard of people just putting a bolt in.

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: 397STROKER] #1422678 04/20/13 10:42 PM 04/20/13 10:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I've done it both ways... cut the cap and studs or just use the bolts in the rear

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1422679 04/20/13 11:36 PM 04/20/13 11:36 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: I've done it both ways... cut the cap and studs or just use the bolts in the rear Used the stock bolts w/ the washers that came with the studs to try a spread the load a little better. 7676000-rearmainbolts.jpg (35 downloads) Fastest 300

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1422680 04/20/13 11:40 PM 04/20/13 11:40 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 628 Denison,Ia. C Cuda367 mopar
Cuda367 mopar C Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 628 Denison,Ia.	Arp has a twevle point nut with washer style end. Cut the stud and install the nut. This is correct way to do this. Anyhting else is make shift. I have posted this enough it just should be standard issue by now Arp should have corrected this a long time ago and just included the nut with the set.

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: Crizila] #1422681 04/20/13 11:42 PM 04/20/13 11:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: I've done it both ways... cut the cap and studs or just use the bolts in the rear Used the stock bolts w/ the washers that came with the studs to try a spread the load a little better. Yeah I always use the washers also

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: Cuda367] #1422682 04/21/13 03:19 PM 04/21/13 03:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl. D dusturbd340W5 master
dusturbd340W5 master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl.	Quote: Arp has a twevle point nut with washer style end. Cut the stud and install the nut. This is correct way to do this. Anyhting else is make shift. I have posted this enough it just should be standard issue by now Arp should have corrected this a long time ago and just included the nut with the set. this is what I do no need to cut the cap 70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1422683 04/21/13 09:03 PM 04/21/13 09:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV dodgeboy11 super stock
dodgeboy11 super stock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV	I cut the stud and used the 12 pt nut with no washer. A valve tip grinder really works good to make the end of the stud look good, but it isn't necessary.

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: dodgeboy11] #1422684 04/21/13 10:02 PM 04/21/13 10:02 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ DJVCuda I Live Here
DJVCuda I Live Here Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 11,179 Atco NJ	I made almost 630 hp and used the stock bolt. ARP sent me a new bolt but it bottomed out right at the point where it hit the main - it looked torqued, but it was not - and the cap would have moved...

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: dodgeboy11] #1422685 04/22/13 01:27 PM 04/22/13 01:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT M moper I Live Here
moper I Live Here M Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,675 Columbia, CT	Quote: I cut the stud and used the 12 pt nut with no washer. A valve tip grinder really works good to make the end of the stud look good, but it isn't necessary. x2 - and done it multiple times. Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: dodgeboy11] #1422686 04/22/13 01:37 PM 04/22/13 01:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY CompWedgeEngines master
CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Quote: I cut the stud and used the 12 pt nut with no washer. A valve tip grinder really works good to make the end of the stud look good, but it isn't necessary. Thats exactly what I do now. I used to cut the cap about .180, now just dont use the washer. A small grind is sometimes necessary on the oil pump boss. I also finish it nice with the valve grinder and a nice little radius afterwards.The radius sometimes helps it clear the bottom of the pump better as well. I had spoke to ARP about this before, just dont think its anything they will ever address. The key to NOT using a washer is to properly burnish the nut and " seat" in.I psoke to one of their engineers once about this, and the nut handles a significant load, close to what the washer will do ( and WAY more than we need to worry about here anyhow), but more important was that the underside of the nut, and the pump washer boss were brunished in so to speak. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1422687 04/23/13 10:08 AM 04/23/13 10:08 AM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV dodgeboy11 super stock
dodgeboy11 super stock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV	Here's a picture of mine. Looks like I cut the top of the nut but I had left it on the stud so I knew how much to take off and had just barely touched the nut with the grinding wheel. 7679237-20130423055812.jpg (84 downloads)

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: dodgeboy11] #1422688 04/23/13 11:33 AM 04/23/13 11:33 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az Crizila master
Crizila master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,506 Az	Quote: Here's a picture of mine. Looks like I cut the top of the nut but I had left it on the stud so I knew how much to take off and had just barely touched the nut with the grinding wheel. Nice! Probably what I should have done. Fastest 300

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: Crizila] #1422689 04/23/13 02:12 PM 04/23/13 02:12 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 224 in the middle D dodger mope enthusiast
dodger mope enthusiast D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 224 in the middle	if you cant use the washer,anti-seize under the nut will help with the torque number

Re: Small block rear main studs [Re: dodger mope] #1422690 04/23/13 04:56 PM 04/23/13 04:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV dodgeboy11 super stock
dodgeboy11 super stock Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,025 Las Vegas, NV	ARP thread lube is all I use. All the torque numbers for their fasteners is with their lube so it's best to stick with it.

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