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battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? #1416597
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We were talking about the purpose of the battery on newer car and trucks at break
buddy was saying that the battery has to be big enuff to keep motor running
my thoughts were if all is good with the alt. after it starts up the battery is no longer needed its only purpose is to start the motor or provide power when not running for lights and such
you should be able to un hook battery (after running) and drive it (least in day time) and as long as battery cables dont touch anything all be good
just dont go hooking battery back up while its running
am i right or wrong


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Re: battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? [Re: toplescuda] #1416598
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it is not just for starting the car.
however you are correct, it isn't needed to keep the car running once it has started.

It is used as a capacitor/buffer.

any voltage spikes are absorbed by the battery, to help protect the electronics on the modern car.
that is why no one recommends you test an alternator on a computer car by pulling the neg cable off the battery any more.

Re: battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? [Re: Andrewh] #1416599
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The point i was making to him was the factory charging sys.(if working as it should) is capable of keeping the motor running and not rely on the battery for power once its started


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Re: battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? [Re: toplescuda] #1416600
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you said the purpose.

again I agreed, that once the car is running, the alternator puts out enough energy to keep the car running without the battery.

BUT, the battery is needed as a capacitor to smooth out the alternator output.

so it is needed for the electrical system to function properly. it is just not adding power to the system.

Re: battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? [Re: Andrewh] #1416601
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I got to let him read this lol


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Re: battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? [Re: toplescuda] #1416602
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Quote:

buddy was saying that the battery has to be big enuff to keep motor running
my thoughts were if all is good with the alt. after it starts up the battery is no longer needed its only purpose is to start the motor or provide power when not running for lights and such As said a shock absorder for the system
you should be able to un hook battery (after running) and drive it (least in day time) and as long as battery cables dont touch anything all be good never want to unhook the batt while running
just dont go hooking battery back up while its running I've done it with no problems but only in rare cases where I've had to seperate the two
am i right or wrong yes and no


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Re: battery and charging sys. on newer fi car/trucks? [Re: toplescuda] #1416603
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OK...I've gotta chime in on this one. I personally own a 2007 Ram 1500. I bought it new. Early last year the original battery failed. It happened very suddenly. The truck was running perfectly, we visited a jobsite, got ready to leave and it would not start. Not even a click on the starter. We hooked up jumper cables and got it started. The truck ran down the road about 200 yards. It started acting like the transmission was stuck between gears. It finally quit pulling altogether and the check engine light came on, then the engine died, no start. We checked the battery, it wasn't shorted, just dead. We put a new battery on it and it ran perfectly. That was 20,000 miles ago. Don't ask me why, or what, because I don't know much about them, but that truck has to have a good battery on it or it will not run.







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