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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: babarracuda]
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04/02/13 06:26 PM
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The thickest rope you can get through the plug hole would be best. 10mm here in Europe, 3/8" would be your best bet.
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: babarracuda]
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04/02/13 06:38 PM
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RapidRobert
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2 ft of 3/8" white nylon rope from your hardware store. Just move the crank CCW aways down from TDC then feed the rope in leaving just a pigtail out then hand turn the crank CW till it locks. Keep the rope in a plastic grocery bag to keep it clean for the next time.
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: babarracuda]
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04/03/13 12:23 PM
04/03/13 12:23 PM
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You'd better hope the rope doesn't get all tangled up once inside the cylinder. You'll end up pulling the head if it does.
Just use air. As long as your valves are sealing properly you won't need to worry about one dropping.
Besides, you won't be introducing fibers or other junk into the cylinders with air like you do with the rope trick. That rope will be clean only on the first cylinder. After that, it's dirty.
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: babarracuda]
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04/03/13 07:26 PM
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The smart man doesn't know everything, he just knows who to ask. That is so true. No one can remember everything but knowing where to find the info is important !  Ron
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !]
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04/03/13 08:46 PM
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Ive always used rope. Nothing wrong with it, just takes some finessing, depending on piston head type.
Used air a couple weeks ago. I'll never use rope again!
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: Von]
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04/03/13 10:19 PM
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air is faster & time is money
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: Todd]
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04/04/13 01:28 AM
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Just changed a set on a 426RB with eddy heads. With the piston at TDC still had enough room to get the keepers out with the valve pushed down. I used the pro form tool that Mancini has. Would have been easier with the tool that Ron has.
X2, no need to screw with air or rope.
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: 383man]
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04/04/13 02:22 AM
04/04/13 02:22 AM
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This tool works great. It lets you use both hands when taking the keepers out and changing the springs or seals. I bought it from Mancini. Ron
That Mancini tool looks SLICK
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !]
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04/04/13 03:04 AM
04/04/13 03:04 AM
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Ted...you can borrow the tool i have if you want..
As long as those heads have bolt holes in the end for accessories ..then it will work...has worked on standard heads...eddy heads..and w2 heads..
It is an old Ed Hamburger tool from the 80s...slightly modified ...
Tony
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: 70AARcuda]
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04/04/13 11:22 AM
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Ron, is that tool using the pushrod to compress the spring?
Also, where'd you get those rocker shaft studs? Did they come as a kit or did you have to do some work getting ones that worked?
Last edited by GTX MATT; 04/04/13 11:23 AM.
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: GTX MATT]
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04/04/13 03:45 PM
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Ron, is that tool using the pushrod to compress the spring?
Also, where'd you get those rocker shaft studs? Did they come as a kit or did you have to do some work getting ones that worked?
No the tool has this allen screw that you just screw down and it pushes the valve spring down. You just stop when its down far enough and it stays there while you use both hands to work on removing the spring. Works real nice. The studs are the studs that came with the Hughes rocker shaft hold downs and hardware kit I got from Hughes. Ron
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: MAVERICKSHEMI]
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04/04/13 11:53 PM
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I bought a Hemi version of this tool a couple years ago....
Take care,
Rick
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: HemiRick]
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04/04/13 11:58 PM
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Mancini Says Tool is back on order. Guy who invented the tool is having production problems at the present time..... I just purchased Troutt's Tool for removing 426 hemi springs with Heads on motor. WORKED GREAT. Customer service is great. Also follow up call. They aim to plz.... 
Last edited by MAVERICKSHEMI; 04/05/13 08:46 AM.
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Re: changing valve springs on engine
[Re: MAVERICKSHEMI]
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04/05/13 12:17 AM
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From who Rick? Mancini Says Back order. Guy who invented the tool is having production problems at the present time.....
I just purchased Troutt's Tool for removing 426 hemi springs with Heads on motor. WORKED GREAT. Customer service is great. Also follow up call. They aim to plz....
From their site ....
$199.95
MREABRBVST
This item is currently out of stock
.... now for 200 beans  .... I don't know about that ...
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