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600hp Max Wedge? #1393119 02/24/13 09:59 PM 02/24/13 09:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under S slantman OP member
slantman OP member S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under	Just asking a theoretical question here. Would it be possible to make 600hp with an engine running an original style MW crossram intake with AFB carbs and MW cast exhaust manifolds? If so, what would it take as far as the build goes? Bore, stroke, compression, cam? For the exercise, the engine would have to look stock appearing, so either cast iron MW heads or maybe 440Source heads. Just throwing the question out there, not directed at anyone in particular. Any opinions are welcome.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: slantman] #1393120 02/24/13 10:22 PM 02/24/13 10:22 PM
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Dads426 pro stock D Joined: May 2007 Posts: 1,443 Maryland	The original engine in our car was a Ray Barton 493 with a Bullet 313-321-06 roller, 12-1 compression, stock max wedge heads, stock 63 crossram with 750 Eddy's that was dyno'd at Ray's (with headers) at 614 HP, 627 lb-ft of torque. It can be done with other combos. We are making about 720 hp now, but went with 440-1 heads and the 440-25 intake. 2012 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2013 422 Allstars NSS Champion 2014 422 Allstars NSS Champion

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: slantman] #1393121 02/24/13 10:22 PM 02/24/13 10:22 PM
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AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,042 Oregon	Tech Archives: http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/bb/80inches.html

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: AndyF] #1393122 02/24/13 10:40 PM 02/24/13 10:40 PM
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wyoming top fuel W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky	Your goal would be much eaiser if you'd run headers instead of the stock exhaust manifolds, I have no experience with them, but do know they will not flow near as well as a good set of headers,you can make the heads your cobsidering work, although neither would be my choice.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: wyoming] #1393123 02/25/13 12:09 AM 02/25/13 12:09 AM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Have you'll looked lately at what a fellow out here in New York has done with stock MW exhaust manifolds running in the F.A.S.T class?

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1393124 02/25/13 12:46 AM 02/25/13 12:46 AM
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GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,163 CT	Theres a local guy here in New Milford CT running a stock appearing Max Wedge stroker. Its 500ish cubes, 440 Source SuperStealths, stock looking cross ram, and stock max wedge exhaust manifolds. He's in the neighborhood of the low 700s if I remember correctly. I will see him again soon since cruising season will be starting His name's Ed, not sure if anyone knows him. Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: GTX MATT] #1393125 02/25/13 01:13 AM 02/25/13 01:13 AM
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wyoming top fuel W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky	I may be wrong, maybe the stock exhaust can be better than I thought, are they extrude porting these?Like I said I have never ran any that have been on the track or dyno.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: GTX MATT] #1393126 02/25/13 01:42 AM 02/25/13 01:42 AM
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fullmetaljacket master F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,849	Yes that's him. Big Ed he goes by. That Maxie is a F.A.S.T Taxi.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: GTX MATT] #1393127 02/25/13 09:02 AM 02/25/13 09:02 AM
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greenmcode mopar G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 518 ny	Ed is from N.Y. he run's the 63 maxie in F.A.S.T. if i remember he was pushing in the 800hp range..stock exhaust manifolds..The heads are steel stock ported.. Last edited by greenmcode; 02/25/13 09:22 AM.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: greenmcode] #1393128 02/25/13 11:55 AM 02/25/13 11:55 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	That would be Ed cooks FAST black 63 Maxie. I have seen him run 10.30's with it. Here is a cool photo he made up with his cars on it. Ron Last edited by 383man; 02/25/13 11:57 AM.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: 383man] #1393129 02/25/13 02:57 PM 02/25/13 02:57 PM
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DaveDudek top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,894 N of Detroit	10.30's on a set of G70-14 repo bias-ply tires. Dave Dudek 1st Factory Stock legal car in the 10`s!!! [/b] FAST & Factory Stock Rules: www.fastraces.org FAST 69 Hemi RR 9.98@139

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: DaveDudek] #1393130 02/25/13 03:45 PM 02/25/13 03:45 PM
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XXHEMI super stock X Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 731 NY	Yes it is possible. In fact I think you can make the 600hp real easy and still have it very user freidly! Mine made 805hp using all stock parts modifed. Only issues I have incountered have beed cracks in the heads. Its been together for three seasons. Motor was built by Mike at HP Motors. Will run 10.50's in the heat and 10.30's in the Fall. But Exhaust manifolds where untouched the last project did not see much gaines in honing them so I saved $600.00 Ed 7603008-Nastblack.jpg (109 downloads)

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: XXHEMI] #1393131 02/25/13 07:38 PM 02/25/13 07:38 PM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under S slantman OP member
slantman OP member S Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 176 Down under	Thanks for all the replies, especially from Ed. Nice to hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: slantman] #1393132 02/25/13 07:46 PM 02/25/13 07:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky W wyoming top fuel
wyoming top fuel W Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,152 Fancy Farm Ky	Thats impressive, Ed what kind a MPH are you turning? Wouldnt think the 60' can be real good on those tires? Are those times with full exhaust? Can you share anymore details on the engine?

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: XXHEMI] #1393133 02/25/13 10:12 PM 02/25/13 10:12 PM
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SuperStockWagon mopar S Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 673 Emmett, Idaho	Quote: Yes it is possible. In fact I think you can make the 600hp real easy and still have it very user freidly! Mine made 805hp using all stock parts modifed. Only issues I have incountered have beed cracks in the heads. Its been together for three seasons. Motor was built by Mike at HP Motors. Will run 10.50's in the heat and 10.30's in the Fall. But Exhaust manifolds where untouched the last project did not see much gaines in honing them so I saved $600.00 Ed Thats a great shot of your car in action Ed...awesome! NHRA Stock/SuperStock Class Racing..Engineered Muscle In Motion!

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: wyoming] #1393134 02/25/13 11:41 PM 02/25/13 11:41 PM
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XXHEMI super stock X Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 731 NY	Quote: Thats impressive, Ed what kind a MPH are you turning? Wouldnt think the 60' can be real good on those tires? Are those times with full exhaust? Can you share anymore details on the engine? Car goes between 131 and 133mph. Should be faster I am missing something just have not figured it out yet? I dont now if the short tire is holding me back? Best sixty is 1.56 but mostly around a 1.60-1.65 depending on the track. Motor is 540ci 286 heads flow around 320. Intake was heavly modified and lots of compression 15.1. Big solid roller and full exhaust. The whole package looks factory stock.

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? [Re: XXHEMI] #1393135 02/26/13 10:00 AM 02/26/13 10:00 AM
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Dodgeguy101 mopar D Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 632 MD-USA	what gears in the rear?

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