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600hp Max Wedge?

Posted By: slantman

600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 01:59 AM

Just asking a theoretical question here.

Would it be possible to make 600hp with an engine running an original style MW crossram intake with AFB carbs and MW cast exhaust manifolds? If so, what would it take as far as the build goes? Bore, stroke, compression, cam? For the exercise, the engine would have to look stock appearing, so either cast iron MW heads or maybe 440Source heads.

Just throwing the question out there, not directed at anyone in particular. Any opinions are welcome.
Posted By: Dads426

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 02:22 AM

The original engine in our car was a Ray Barton 493 with a Bullet 313-321-06 roller, 12-1 compression, stock max wedge heads, stock 63 crossram with 750 Eddy's that was dyno'd at Ray's (with headers) at 614 HP, 627 lb-ft of torque. It can be done with other combos. We are making about 720 hp now, but went with 440-1 heads and the 440-25 intake.
Posted By: AndyF

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 02:22 AM

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Posted By: wyoming

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 02:40 AM

Your goal would be much eaiser if you'd run headers instead of the stock exhaust manifolds, I have no experience with them, but do know they will not flow near as well as a good set of headers,you can make the heads your cobsidering work, although neither would be my choice.
Posted By: fullmetaljacket

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 04:09 AM

Have you'll looked lately at what a fellow out here in New York has done with stock MW exhaust manifolds running in the F.A.S.T class?
Posted By: GTX MATT

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 04:46 AM

Theres a local guy here in New Milford CT running a stock appearing Max Wedge stroker. Its 500ish cubes, 440 Source SuperStealths, stock looking cross ram, and stock max wedge exhaust manifolds. He's in the neighborhood of the low 700s if I remember correctly. I will see him again soon since cruising season will be starting

His name's Ed, not sure if anyone knows him.
Posted By: wyoming

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 05:13 AM

I may be wrong, maybe the stock exhaust can be better than I thought, are they extrude porting these?Like I said I have never ran any that have been on the track or dyno.
Posted By: fullmetaljacket

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 05:42 AM

Yes that's him. Big Ed he goes by. That Maxie is a F.A.S.T Taxi.
Posted By: greenmcode

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 01:02 PM

Ed is from N.Y. he run's the 63 maxie in F.A.S.T. if
i remember he was pushing in the 800hp range..stock
exhaust manifolds..The heads are steel stock ported..
Posted By: 383man

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 03:55 PM

That would be Ed cooks FAST black 63 Maxie. I have seen him run 10.30's with it. Here is a cool photo he made up with his cars on it. Ron


Posted By: DaveDudek

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 06:57 PM

10.30's on a set of G70-14 repo bias-ply tires.
Posted By: XXHEMI

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 07:45 PM

Yes it is possible.

In fact I think you can make the 600hp real easy and still have it very user freidly!

Mine made 805hp using all stock parts modifed. Only issues I have incountered have beed cracks in the heads. Its been together for three seasons. Motor was built by Mike at HP Motors. Will run 10.50's in the heat and 10.30's in the Fall.

But Exhaust manifolds where untouched the last project did not see much gaines in honing them so I saved $600.00

Ed

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Posted By: slantman

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 11:38 PM

Thanks for all the replies, especially from Ed. Nice to hear it from the horse's mouth, so to speak.
Posted By: wyoming

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/25/13 11:46 PM

Thats impressive, Ed what kind a MPH are you turning? Wouldnt think the 60' can be real good on those tires? Are those times with full exhaust? Can you share anymore details on the engine?
Posted By: SuperStockWagon

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/26/13 02:12 AM

Quote:

Yes it is possible.

In fact I think you can make the 600hp real easy and still have it very user freidly!

Mine made 805hp using all stock parts modifed. Only issues I have incountered have beed cracks in the heads. Its been together for three seasons. Motor was built by Mike at HP Motors. Will run 10.50's in the heat and 10.30's in the Fall.

But Exhaust manifolds where untouched the last project did not see much gaines in honing them so I saved $600.00

Ed



Thats a great shot of your car in action Ed...awesome!
Posted By: XXHEMI

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/26/13 03:41 AM

Quote:

Thats impressive, Ed what kind a MPH are you turning? Wouldnt think the 60' can be real good on those tires? Are those times with full exhaust? Can you share anymore details on the engine?



Car goes between 131 and 133mph. Should be faster I am missing something just have not figured it out yet? I dont now if the short tire is holding me back? Best sixty is 1.56 but mostly around a 1.60-1.65 depending on the track.

Motor is 540ci 286 heads flow around 320. Intake was heavly modified and lots of compression 15.1. Big solid roller and full exhaust.
The whole package looks factory stock.
Posted By: Dodgeguy101

Re: 600hp Max Wedge? - 02/26/13 02:00 PM

what gears in the rear?
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